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Old 02-22-2006, 09:35 AM
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I know Fred will appreciate this. If there are any other pilots in here, they'll enjoy it, too. Pretty crazy stuff.
Crosswind Landing Testing

This little item shows the Boeing factory determining the demonstrated crosswind landing limits on the 777 and the 747SP. The engineers make educated guesses, but then the test crews have to go actually prove the numbers. They sneak off to Brazil to do these tests at a certain remote BAF airbase famous for its continual atrocious crosswinds...Should the gear sideloads be excessive and fold one up, there is nobody there to take nasty pix for the Airbus guys to wave around in the press.

This is some good piloting in getting these planes down. It comes close to "incredible".... tire change anybody????

If you haven't seen these it's pretty amazing to watch planes of this size crab walking in on a landing. I can hear the whole crew in the pilot just yelling Yeehaaaa at the top of their lungs.

Note the rudder action on landing
Video: http://www.jeremylockhart.com/misc/crosswind.wmv
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I can't watch here at work - but I can only imagine.

Have you seen that 747 video that used to land at the now-closed HK airport? It sat in the middle of the harbor, and it was known for intense crosswinds. The pilot would crabwalk it right up until touchdown, and hammer in full rudder to straighten the plane up w/ the strip. Amazing... I'll see if I can find the video tonight...
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mad tight 777 dorifto action!
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wow.... them's some big pilot-balls
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Cool video!

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Great video- made me nervouse watching it. If you can land an airplane like.... you've earned your buck IMO.
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Here's my dad's take after watching the video (retired 767 captain and former Marine Corps fighter pilot):

"Actually, the big Boeings are certified to 40 knots direct crosswind. Our company limitations were 29 knots, but obviously that left a good margin for safety. I
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Originally Posted by QUIKAG,Feb 23 2006, 04:39 AM
You will be left with pilots that are great for 99% of the situations, but it's that 1% where the truly good pilots determine whether it's a life or death situation.
Yeah. I've had this discussion before relating to sailing. Most boats - even big ones - can be handled by one or two people on a normal day... but when that squall comes through you'd better know what you're doing and have enough crew to get what has to be done done.
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Great video- I've seen it before. I also remember landing at the old Hong Kong airport as a passenger on an R&R flight from 'Nam. The plane hit so hard all the trays and coffee urns came out all over the place.

Worse winds I've flown in as a pilot was 70 kts gusting to 85, 30 degrees off the runway, in an early B-52 flight- that computes to 44 kts of cross wind using half the gust factor. 'Course you could crank the landing gear to align with the runway while the aircraft landed in a crab.

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Originally Posted by QUIKAG,Feb 23 2006, 07:39 AM
Airline management across the country and some other parts of the world are trying to reduce the wages of airline pilots down to somewhat glorified bus drivers.
Well if they are going to do that crap, they might as well go all the way and have "robo-pilots". A piece of software is going to have better reflexes than a human and cant get hijacked.


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