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Old 09-20-2010 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 00MUGENS2,Sep 20 2010, 12:55 PM
I wont deny that AP2 gearing has an advantage at the Auto-x...but Dave knows not to talk crap.....or he will get it right back again when we go to the track .
That is why I am talking the crap for him. As he can routinely kick my behind without much effort.


Will be good to be last of the 4 of us at the 3.1, as it was with the 1.7. Unless I can push Zo back to 4th
Old 09-20-2010 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by pmptx,Sep 20 2010, 12:57 PM
That is why I am talking the crap for him. As he can routinely kick my behind without much effort.


Will be good to be last of the 4 of us at the 3.1, as it was with the 1.7. Unless I can push Zo back to 4th
I wouldnt count on that....Zo will be runnin R-comps this time.
Old 09-20-2010 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 00MUGENS2,Sep 20 2010, 12:55 PM
I wont deny that AP2 gearing has an advantage at the Auto-x...
I think the AP1 gearing is WAY better for autocrossing than the AP2 gearing. A stock AP2 drives like an AP1 with 4.77's, which is way too short for autocrossing on most courses IMHO. The low 2nd gear make the rear end twitchy, and you have to shift to 3rd gear a LOT.

On Saturday's course, I had to shift to 3rd 5 times per run. Looking at my FlashPro datalogs, Jerrett was just staying in 3rd through a lot of the course, but he shifted to 3rd 5 times on his last run (his fastest). I forgot to ask Jerrett if he had any issues shifting to 3rd, but I sure did. It seemed that once the transmission got hot, I couldn't get it into 3rd very easily. I wound up just coasting down a few of those long straights.
Old 09-20-2010 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 00MUGENS2,Sep 20 2010, 03:44 PM
I wouldnt count on that....Zo will be runnin R-comps this time.
Darn so the Star Specs aren't my trump card.

Oh well, sounds like Mineral Wells was a good course and you guys all had a great time
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Originally Posted by gernby,Sep 20 2010, 03:52 PM
I think the AP1 gearing is WAY better for autocrossing than the AP2 gearing. A stock AP2 drives like an AP1 with 4.77's, which is way too short for autocrossing on most courses IMHO. The low 2nd gear make the rear end twitchy, and you have to shift to 3rd gear a LOT.

On Saturday's course, I had to shift to 3rd 5 times per run. Looking at my FlashPro datalogs, Jerrett was just staying in 3rd through a lot of the course, but he shifted to 3rd 5 times on his last run (his fastest). I forgot to ask Jerrett if he had any issues shifting to 3rd, but I sure did. It seemed that once the transmission got hot, I couldn't get it into 3rd very easily. I wound up just coasting down a few of those long straights.
I had a hard time getting into third on a few runs and I know Zo did as well.

I would agree with you on the gearing for some of the autocrosses, but I didnt feel like I was at any sort of disadvantage gearing wise with this course.
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Originally Posted by pmptx,Sep 20 2010, 12:57 PM
That is why I am talking the crap for him. As he can routinely kick my behind without much effort.


Will be good to be last of the 4 of us at the 3.1, as it was with the 1.7. Unless I can push Zo back to 4th
Glad to see you will be out at the 3.1 with us Peter.

Should be a good time.
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Originally Posted by S2Dave,Sep 20 2010, 04:08 PM
I had a hard time getting into third on a few runs and I know Zo did as well.

I would agree with you on the gearing for some of the autocrosses, but I didnt feel like I was at any sort of disadvantage gearing wise with this course.
I'm hoping an oil change will help for next time. However, I didn't have this issue at ECR ...

I looked back at the datalog for Jerrett's fastest run, and it looks like he would have only needed 3rd gear ONCE with AP1 gearing and an AP1 rev limit. The other 4 times he used 3rd would have just been PERFECT for kissing the AP1 rev limiter before hitting the brakes.
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Originally Posted by S2Dave,Sep 20 2010, 01:10 PM
Glad to see you will be out at the 3.1 with us Peter.

Should be a good time.
What day is that? And who is running it?
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Originally Posted by gernby,Sep 20 2010, 12:52 PM
I forgot to ask Jerrett if he had any issues shifting to 3rd, but I sure did.
No problems shifting. Other than the brakes, your car behaved very well and the linear power that you have is impressive.
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Originally Posted by rioyellows2k,Sep 20 2010, 05:30 PM
What day is that? And who is running it?
MSR 3.1 Oct 18 Intermediate and Advanced only
Intermediate is Full, 4 advanced spaces left.

Apex
http://www.apexdrivingacademy.com/schedule.htm


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