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Old 05-07-2008 | 06:32 PM
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no words need to be said here. Im getting in line for the AP1 kit if reviews and the first few kits come back positive. The 2 year warranty is huge but not as big as the 150 hp gain
Old 05-07-2008 | 06:35 PM
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The 6000.00 or so would make me go elsewhere. Thats a lot of money.

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Old 05-07-2008 | 06:48 PM
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true.....im hoping the AP1 kits will be a bit lower then that since they wont need to be adjusted for the DBW. If not i wont have a huge problem going for a Greddy tubro for 3800 with everything included or a used comptech kit for 3K or something around there
Old 05-07-2008 | 08:24 PM
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Agreed. Id likely go with a Comptech kit over a turbo though. I love the more linear powerband.

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Old 05-08-2008 | 12:41 AM
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I still wish someone would start selling a roots type blower.
Old 05-08-2008 | 06:26 PM
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Ask and ye shall receive.

Kyle I'm aware of the Kraftwerks kit (and impending AP1 release). You would think that since my moniker is Ravenwerk I would be very receptive.

As Cody desires "so go I". I prefer a roots system simply because it's going to vastly improve low end torque. According to the people who are involved with the BRP/SOT hotside system it's specs simply blow away centrifugal systems. Being fully aware of how statitistics can be manipulated I'm always leary of ANY charts or comparisons offered (by all) - and having said so I know final outputs are going to be "iffy" with new promo's BUT what is offered so far shows that Comptech's kit with aftercooler on an AP1 (on Comptech's website), the BRP/SOT kit is putting down 30whp/58 ft-lb more @ 3000 RPM, 40whp/58 ft-lb @ 4000 RPM, 63whp/67ft-lb more @ 5000 RPM, 51whp/47ft-lb @ 6000 RPM, 71whp/24ft-lb @ 7000 RPM, 51whp/33ft-lb more @ 8000 RPM, and finally, 45whp/23ft-lb more @ 8800 RPM. In other words, it destroys Comptech's centrifugal kit. This thing should simply walk away from a Comptech'd S2k with aftercooler at the standard boost levels. The AP2 should put down even more torque.
I've been following this system's development for about a year now and it looks like they're just about to offer it in kit form. I don't know if I will pursue it though (for several reasons). First and foremost it will probably cause me to spend an unknown amount of time in jail.
Second, I feel it will probably have a detrimental effect on the drivetrain. Third, I know of no one (read: trust) who's capable of correctly installing and tuning the system in this area. I can easily picture spending a LOT of coin on this just to have the engine self-destruct at the hands of a self proclaimed eager wannabe. Then I'd have to spend time in jail for his death and dismemberment and nobody (least of all me) wants that.
I would never go turbo because of drivetrain weakness and the twitchy tuning problems. I'm not competent or interested enough in engine management to dive into that and once again there's the issue of nobody I trust locally to make me a happy camper.
Chances are I won't boost but if I did it would probably be with the hotside kit. It looks very promising.
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Well said Robin. Just about wraps up how I feel about the whole thing. I on the other hand would like to do a completely impractical 2.5 liter stroker NA motor. A guy in JDM Tuning did that and put down 263whp and ~200ft/lb tq. Granted, it cost an arm and a leg, but there is something to be said about always available NA power and the delivery of it.

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Old 05-08-2008 | 07:25 PM
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i wouldnt mind a stroker but for the money can you get more power out of a SC. If the S were my garage queen id wet myself for an inline pro system. However, like you said they are largely fickel. Im waiting on some sweet incentive checks to come through from work. when they hit the bank its pay the car off or pay some more down and get the CTSC w/AC.
Old 05-09-2008 | 12:55 AM
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Now don't get me wrong, I would love to have this kit. Of all the S/C kits currently being sold, this is on the top of my list. Even tho the AP1 kit has yet to be released I am sure it will be great.

Correct me if I am wrong but the AP1's will make higher boost due to the higher revs. Barring they change the pulleys for the AP1. I think this is how it normally works, no?
Old 05-09-2008 | 05:59 AM
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If the BRP/SOT had been available and had a significant, happy installed customer base that would certainly have been my choice.

But then again I'm pretty pleased with what I've got.



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