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Old 07-26-2004, 05:54 AM
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Fisi inherited his win, nothing else
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trulli and Ralf did earn their wins, as they did put in the time..
but they will never win again
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Haha Toyota a contender in 2 years?! I really don't think so. They can have the best drivers in the world and they would never come close. Ralf is not the best developer in terms of technical know how. If they had MS developing the Toyota, i could see them improving. Toyota won't be good, if ever, for atleast 4-5 years!
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Originally Posted by s2ksimon,Jul 26 2004, 08:54 AM
Fisi inherited his win, nothing else
True, BUT...

Last year Fisi had his win (if you don't want to give him credit for the win, call it a second place). The year before he had 3 5th place finishes. 2001 a third and a fourth and 2000 he had a second, third and 2 5ths

That 5th place finish in the Aussie GP was Webber's best finish ever....2003 he did nothing, 2004 to date he has done nohing, while Fisi has a 4th this year and is leading Webber in the drivers.

Will Webber do well in a Williams - YES - would Fisi do well in a Williams - YES!
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Originally Posted by ITR Racer,Jul 26 2004, 09:15 AM
Haha Toyota a contender in 2 years?! I really don't think so. They can have the best drivers in the world and they would never come close. Ralf is not the best developer in terms of technical know how. If they had MS developing the Toyota, i could see them improving. Toyota won't be good, if ever, for atleast 4-5 years!
I agree there are many items to be looked at...that is why I said they COULD be a contender . You know if the stars line up and we have a solar eclipse on race day...they might even win!
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Webber was excellent last year. He hasn't really impressed this year. IMO, Williams would do far better with JV.

Heck, get Paul Tracy and Jacques and build a canadian 1-2 at Williams!

The team to watch out for next year is definitely Maclaren. Kimi and JPM, wow, what a duo!!
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Originally Posted by ITR Racer,Jul 26 2004, 09:15 AM
Haha Toyota a contender in 2 years?! I really don't think so. They can have the best drivers in the world and they would never come close. Ralf is not the best developer in terms of technical know how. If they had MS developing the Toyota, i could see them improving. Toyota won't be good, if ever, for atleast 4-5 years!
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Originally Posted by ITR Racer,Jul 26 2004, 09:19 AM
Heck, get Paul Tracy and Jacques and build a canadian 1-2 at Williams!
NOOOOOO!!!! Not PT!!!! We would have the ass-namer in here spouting off stuff too!
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PT and JV will never happen
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I'm with Simon on the Ralph issue, I do not like him.

As far as Fisi is concerned here is my stance. I have his hat from when he was in a Jordan/Honda because he was the better of the two drivers. I guess if Flavio wants him back there must be a reason for it so I will have to trust Flavio. However if next year he is always following Fernando around I will not be completely surprised.

Now, Marco, I think it is a bit unfair of you to say that Trulli is "consistently" ahead of Fernando. Maybe you should look at the driver's points standings, my man Fernando was ahead of Trulli in Melbourne, Imola, Magny-cours and Hockenheim. Yes, I will admit Trulli has more points and is ahead, but consistently is just wrong.

As far as Toyota is concerned here is my stance. Toyota has the biggest budget in F1 according to what I have read, that being said their results really suck and they will continue to do so next year! Trulli and Ralph are going to have their hands full just getting a point or two. Toyota is not going to be a contender for many years, well unless they are contending for back-of-the-pack award...


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