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Reapur 05-04-2012 06:01 PM

I know most people arnt earning more money that's for sure lol

FluKy15 05-05-2012 02:05 AM


Originally Posted by Reapur (Post 21671079)
I know most people arnt earning more money that's for sure lol

That, in my opinion, is the f@#ked up thing. On average people are making less, working more, and spending more to just live. Middle class disappearing every year. Lets not get this thread too political though :suspect:. $70 for 4 hours is still a good deal I feel. Shannonville is far, and if priced competitively, too many cars on the track.

zeroptzero 05-05-2012 04:15 AM

Ten years ago I used to rent out Gingerman Raceway in South Haven Michigan for an entire weekday, and then I invited a bunch of guys to attend and chip in for the cost of the rental. It was $2,500 for a full weekday 9am-5pm. That was an awesome time, I did that once a year for about 4 years in a row. Lots of fun and it brought down the price of the track days to a very affordable amount.

CR EH 05-05-2012 07:15 AM

I guess one thing that bothers me and this is of course no fault to the track owners specifically, but there doesn't seem to be any "support" or encouragment for young kids to attend tracking events. Think of all the wreckless activity on the roads and street racing. For me, a track experience was an eye opening experience and my street driving has become much more timid.

But how is a young kid supposed to afford to go to the track when they can barely afford their insurance? It just seems like a vicious circle that encourages more deviant behaviour than anything else. There are many valuable lessons to be learned at tracks and I feel they are too far out of reach for those who need them most.

Ex.
youth gets drivers license
->youth speeds and drives careless on streets
->youth is killed in wreckless accident or -> youth is fined and insurance rate spikes
->youth drops out of school to work more hours or ->youth attempts to drive without license
->youth is then caught again and heavily fined or imprisoned.

Vs.

Youth gets drivers license -> youth attends affordable tracking event -> youth learns to respect his vehicle and street laws.

Education is key, slapping wrists and enforcing punishment teaches nothing.

Maybe you guys live in a different world, but over here the average youth makes about $10/hour for 20-30 hours a week. Christ MY income makes it difficult for me to budget tracking expenses and I work more than fulltime.

I know I'm rambling but that's what forums are for right? :)

iDomN8U 05-05-2012 08:21 AM

Their fundamental problem is marketing (IMO). I think it can be a very profitable business otherwise no one would be doing it.

70 for 4 hours (which we know goes on for longer, it's never exactly 4 hours) isn't a big pill to swallow.

If the youth can afford a car and insurance, then they can afford a few track events each year. Don't buy a pair of jeans and don't watch a couple movies at the theatre.

Holeecow 05-06-2012 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by CR EH (Post 21671941)
I guess one thing that bothers me and this is of course no fault to the track owners specifically, but there doesn't seem to be any "support" or encouragment for young kids to attend tracking events. Think of all the wreckless activity on the roads and street racing. For me, a track experience was an eye opening experience and my street driving has become much more timid.

But how is a young kid supposed to afford to go to the track when they can barely afford their insurance? It just seems like a vicious circle that encourages more deviant behaviour than anything else. There are many valuable lessons to be learned at tracks and I feel they are too far out of reach for those who need them most.

Ex.
youth gets drivers license
->youth speeds and drives careless on streets
->youth is killed in wreckless accident or -> youth is fined and insurance rate spikes
->youth drops out of school to work more hours or ->youth attempts to drive without license
->youth is then caught again and heavily fined or imprisoned.

Vs.

Youth gets drivers license -> youth attends affordable tracking event -> youth learns to respect his vehicle and street laws.

Education is key, slapping wrists and enforcing punishment teaches nothing.

Maybe you guys live in a different world, but over here the average youth makes about $10/hour for 20-30 hours a week. Christ MY income makes it difficult for me to budget tracking expenses and I work more than fulltime.

I know I'm rambling but that's what forums are for right? :)

I agree.
I am not even a young gun anymore!
After Tracking. Driving fast on the streets isn't nearly as appealing!
Tracking was amazing!
Driving fast on public roads just meant it was harder for onlookers to stare at my car lol (I joke but no really)

Everyone asks what's your top speed on the track? It's always sorta funny cause depending on the track. 140 150 is pretty fast when your coming up to a tigh corner. But on a wide open highway, it's a joke!
Really makes you respect speed.

I am gonna bring my kid to a tracking event. When I have one. I am sure it's gonna change their view on cars. Laws etc.

o'malley_808 05-07-2012 05:06 AM

They have to fund that new tiki bar they put on the strip lmao

SpidArman 05-07-2012 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by o'malley_808 (Post 21675474)
They have to fund that new tiki bar they put on the strip lmao

This is my biggest peeve with them, considering all that wood could have gone into repairing the grand stand, or the money could have went into fixing the millions of pot holes in the parking lot......
They only seem to put money into things there, that will make them more money in the end. Not fixing and maintaining. I guess until someone falls through the stands.

buzzlightyear 05-08-2012 05:27 AM

Price goes up, still the best deal around. Some will whine, but they'll still go.

CR EH 05-09-2012 11:49 AM

Time Attack
$160
(Must Pre-Register*)
Gate admission additional ($20) <- bullshit

Really guys? This is affordable to you? Just for a time attack event? Sigh...


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