AP1/AP2 Motors
03-31-2013, 03:37 PM
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a friend had swapped a v8 ls1 into his miata last year, along with another friend who swapped an 05 m3 engine into a 2003 330i sedan then proceeded to turbocharge it. ironically, i had previously criticized the 330i sedan owner as selling the 330i then purchasing a m3 would've been more prudent. had he gone that route and boosted the m3, he'd be in quite a pickle right now
currently, as long as the the engines' displacement is HIGHER than that of the incumbent engine, you're good. suppose the f22c really is better than the f20c in this case
hopefully this helps and everything gets sorted out
FYG: 1) http://www.ene.gov.o...ROD_098201.html
2) http://www.maxbimmer...ad.php?t=156173
currently, as long as the the engines' displacement is HIGHER than that of the incumbent engine, you're good. suppose the f22c really is better than the f20c in this case
hopefully this helps and everything gets sorted out
FYG: 1) http://www.ene.gov.o...ROD_098201.html
2) http://www.maxbimmer...ad.php?t=156173
But, this works even better!
03-31-2013, 04:39 PM
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I'd call the ministry, I had a 30 min conversation with a ministry officer, anything after 1999 can not be hot Rod status period, it has to be able to communicate with the ministry computer (the web site is way out date on information) fhe obd 2 port must be functional, no ifs ands or buts.......call yourself, not eligible for hot rod if post 1999, so a stand alone is a bad idea, ap2 swap with k pro will work......
Again don't believe me call yourself. Ask to be transferred to the compliance people they will tell you exactly what they told me.
Good luck !!
Lee
Again don't believe me call yourself. Ask to be transferred to the compliance people they will tell you exactly what they told me.
Good luck !!
Lee
03-31-2013, 05:42 PM
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I'd call the ministry, I had a 30 min conversation with a ministry officer, anything after 1999 can not be hot Rod status period, it has to be able to communicate with the ministry computer (the web site is way out date on information) fhe obd 2 port must be functional, no ifs ands or buts.......call yourself, not eligible for hot rod if post 1999, so a stand alone is a bad idea, ap2 swap with k pro will work......
Again don't believe me call yourself. Ask to be transferred to the compliance people they will tell you exactly what they told me.
Good luck !!
Lee
Again don't believe me call yourself. Ask to be transferred to the compliance people they will tell you exactly what they told me.
Good luck !!
Lee
03-31-2013, 05:59 PM
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No problem !!
Reason I know this is i have a 5.7l motor in my s2000 and I'm not considered hot rod, as long as my obd2 port works and reads pass/ ready for monitors it passes.....so dumb,
Lee
Reason I know this is i have a 5.7l motor in my s2000 and I'm not considered hot rod, as long as my obd2 port works and reads pass/ ready for monitors it passes.....so dumb,
Lee
04-01-2013, 05:11 AM
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04-01-2013, 05:18 AM
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With all this emissions crap I would be more inclined to keep the AP1 engine in there.
That being said my AP1 has an AP2 engine. The stock ecu will run the car no problem. As for not being able to rev the car to 9k that was the general theory a few years ago. Mine ran great to 9k and has being doing it for about 5 years now with no issues. Even at 607whp the car is still revving to 9k no issues. I have a spare AP1 engine with less than 10k on it but I've been holding on to that gem until the car sells
I've already turned down many offers 
That being said my AP1 has an AP2 engine. The stock ecu will run the car no problem. As for not being able to rev the car to 9k that was the general theory a few years ago. Mine ran great to 9k and has being doing it for about 5 years now with no issues. Even at 607whp the car is still revving to 9k no issues. I have a spare AP1 engine with less than 10k on it but I've been holding on to that gem until the car sells
I've already turned down many offers
04-01-2013, 05:35 AM
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With all this emissions crap I would be more inclined to keep the AP1 engine in there.
That being said my AP1 has an AP2 engine. The stock ecu will run the car no problem. As for not being able to rev the car to 9k that was the general theory a few years ago. Mine ran great to 9k and has being doing it for about 5 years now with no issues. Even at 607whp the car is still revving to 9k no issues. I have a spare AP1 engine with less than 10k on it but I've been holding on to that gem until the car sells I've already turned down many offers
That being said my AP1 has an AP2 engine. The stock ecu will run the car no problem. As for not being able to rev the car to 9k that was the general theory a few years ago. Mine ran great to 9k and has being doing it for about 5 years now with no issues. Even at 607whp the car is still revving to 9k no issues. I have a spare AP1 engine with less than 10k on it but I've been holding on to that gem until the car sells
I've already turned down many offers I have an engine stand just waiting for a mint f20. 
04-01-2013, 05:47 AM
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Sounds Awesome- Is this a LS1 swap? Where did you get it done, how much did it cost, your impressions after the swap, cornering issues? I am sure nuff guys on here would like to see pics of that swap. Please share!
04-01-2013, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by s2kt3' timestamp='1364781586' post='22441886
No problem !!
Reason I know this is i have a 5.7l motor in my s2000 and I'm not considered hot rod, as long as my obd2 port works and reads pass/ ready for monitors it passes.....so dumb,
Lee
Reason I know this is i have a 5.7l motor in my s2000 and I'm not considered hot rod, as long as my obd2 port works and reads pass/ ready for monitors it passes.....so dumb,
Lee
04-01-2013, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by s2kt3' timestamp='1364781586' post='22441886
No problem !!
Reason I know this is i have a 5.7l motor in my s2000 and I'm not considered hot rod, as long as my obd2 port works and reads pass/ ready for monitors it passes.....so dumb,
Lee
Reason I know this is i have a 5.7l motor in my s2000 and I'm not considered hot rod, as long as my obd2 port works and reads pass/ ready for monitors it passes.....so dumb,
Lee
build thread .....
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/991...ch-of-goodies/