Question About PRM Intake
#11
With regard to heat soak and the PRM:
The straight-through design filter is protected from direct heat because it is inside the canister.
The aluminum tubing gets warmed up by the ambient engine bay temperature, but the theory is that the air passes through the tube so quickly, there are no real gains to be made by insulating the tube or using a carbon fiber or silicone tube (which retain less heat than aluminum).
All of the full CAI systems have more exposed aluminum inside the engine compartment than the PRM, therefore, they will likely produce more conducted heat soak than the PRM.
Other devices that can be used to help reduce the intake temerature are an engine block heat shield, and a vented hood (see my pics).
-Pete
The straight-through design filter is protected from direct heat because it is inside the canister.
The aluminum tubing gets warmed up by the ambient engine bay temperature, but the theory is that the air passes through the tube so quickly, there are no real gains to be made by insulating the tube or using a carbon fiber or silicone tube (which retain less heat than aluminum).
All of the full CAI systems have more exposed aluminum inside the engine compartment than the PRM, therefore, they will likely produce more conducted heat soak than the PRM.
Other devices that can be used to help reduce the intake temerature are an engine block heat shield, and a vented hood (see my pics).
-Pete
#12
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: WASTED in Margaritaville
Posts: 2,735
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Honestly... Most dynoed increase on the S2000 with intakes are within the error range of the dyno.
If it were me I would not buy the PRM intake. It is injesting hot air from underneath the hood, and further heating it from the side of the engine block. The little opening you are showing from that angle isn't really ideal.
If I were to buy an intake I would buy a Mugen or a Comptech, although the comptech is essentially intaking air from the same place, the outer box is shielding the air from heat.
I would also consider a Spoon snorkel or clone to get cool air into the stock box. I made my own cold air intake by using a naca duct in my front grill and tubing right into my airbox.
If it were me I would not buy the PRM intake. It is injesting hot air from underneath the hood, and further heating it from the side of the engine block. The little opening you are showing from that angle isn't really ideal.
If I were to buy an intake I would buy a Mugen or a Comptech, although the comptech is essentially intaking air from the same place, the outer box is shielding the air from heat.
I would also consider a Spoon snorkel or clone to get cool air into the stock box. I made my own cold air intake by using a naca duct in my front grill and tubing right into my airbox.
#13
Registered User
Join Date: May 2002
Location: cooper city
Posts: 6,907
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
[QUOTE]Originally posted by KeithD
Honestly... Most dynoed increase on the S2000 with intakes are within the error range of the dyno.
If it were me I would not buy the PRM intake.
Honestly... Most dynoed increase on the S2000 with intakes are within the error range of the dyno.
If it were me I would not buy the PRM intake.
#14
Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Spank me baby
Posts: 634
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by Fyrestrike
There have also been dynos here locally involving Richie's car that proved that the intake loses power but hey, if you think you will hydrolock with the stock airbox, I guess the 3whp loss from the PRM is worth it right?
There have also been dynos here locally involving Richie's car that proved that the intake loses power but hey, if you think you will hydrolock with the stock airbox, I guess the 3whp loss from the PRM is worth it right?
I never had a baseline done before the PRM was on. Just because it didn't put out the same exact HP as your car does not mean it lost power. I could have started out with less.
I have never seen proof that the PRM loses power. Just because you guys agree that it does with no proof does not make it true.
#15
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Miami Lakes
Posts: 2,441
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
[QUOTE]Originally posted by KeithD
Honestly... Most dynoed increase on the S2000 with intakes are within the error range of the dyno.
If it were me I would not buy the PRM intake.
Honestly... Most dynoed increase on the S2000 with intakes are within the error range of the dyno.
If it were me I would not buy the PRM intake.
#19
Originally posted by COjOi
"I pulled 214.1 with PRM and Invidia Exhuast.. Nice gains and PRM sounds like that sh*t to."
Sounds like what shit?
"I pulled 214.1 with PRM and Invidia Exhuast.. Nice gains and PRM sounds like that sh*t to."
Sounds like what shit?
The PRM has the rep for making an awesome intake note. You should really check it out before you purchase another intake.
I have not seen any dyno charts where there have been HP losses with the PRM.
-Pete
#20
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: South Florida
Posts: 317
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by Fyrestrike
There have also been dynos here locally involving Richie's car that proved that the intake loses power but hey, if you think you will hydrolock with the stock airbox, I guess the 3whp loss from the PRM is worth it right?
There have also been dynos here locally involving Richie's car that proved that the intake loses power but hey, if you think you will hydrolock with the stock airbox, I guess the 3whp loss from the PRM is worth it right?
Furthermore, when a member, including you, wants to sell somethething as Mitch wants to sell his PRM, it would be nice not to shoot his sale up with bullshit opinions as you and jonathan have done.
Your opinions are usually valued, as for this time, you just talking out your ass.