trying a new combo this weekend - Pics Finally !
#14
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Originally Posted by HunterEz,May 20 2005, 03:45 PM
Any idea on how it compares to P21S?
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Originally Posted by petraidm,May 21 2005, 07:11 AM
Reminder ... you should to let WG cure 24 hours between coats
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Originally Posted by s2ksimon,May 21 2005, 08:39 AM
ya, they say about zaino too.. 12 hours always worked for me
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Originally Posted by animeS2K,May 24 2005, 02:48 PM
sooo? how'd it come out?
but here is the text version.. the full version will get posted Wednesday evening.. (or when i have more time)
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I decided to try a new combo..
Before:
WG SG over NXT.. A Big NO ! NO !
Here's what i did..
I hit the paint with the usual DACP for some stubborn swirls, (Sonus Orange Pad)
then
Poorboys SSR2.5 for medium ones (Sonus Pad Green) and to give it some "pop"
I then layered NXT paste wax by hand and left it for about 15mins..
A big No ! No!
After about 15mins it becomes a dry dusty haze to remove. It filled my MF towel with it and required a HELLUVA lot of elbow grease. Was very tough to remove. Then after all the removal, I had to break out my california duster as dust particles were everywhere.. What a pain !
I then decided to employ the "wax on wipe off" method (WOWO) for the second coat of NXT and it did wonders ! I applied it by hand in smaller sections, waited about 30secs to 1minute and it appeared to "rub in" better and smoother. I did not let it dry to a haze and I noticed it gave greater "pop" So after 2 coats of NXT .. 1 to haze and then 1 with WOWO method.
NXT by hand x 2:
I went for a WG topper..
Another Big No ! No !
I applied a nice thin coat of WG SG by hand, and within seconds, the WG SG stuck to the NXT like "Glue" A chemical adhesion education did i get! I kid you not ! I had to rub and rub like never before. It was like having to remove residual glue left on from the 80's. I thought my hands were going to fall off. Similar to the elbow grease of leaving #16 on too long or Klasse SG. My arms almost fell off.
After I finally removed it one section of the hood thankfully, i said no more WG for this process. I decided to top it with Pinnacle Souveran. Ooooh, this went on easy and removed easy. It gave the paint a much deeper look IMO. WOWO method as well.
NXT topped with Pinnacle Souveran:
So in the end, my recommendations:
Apply NXT , and then remove immediately with the WOWO method.
The longer it sits, the worse it will be to remove.
Do not top with a sealant like WG.
But rather a good carnuba. or Don't top it at all if its a light coloured car.
My stages:
DACP x 1 (Sonus Orange Pad, speed 4-5)
SSR2.5 x 1 (Sonus Green Pad speed 4-5)
NXT x 2 (by hand)
Pinnacle Souveran x 1 (by hand)
#19
Well, that WAS an education. Thanks for finding out what doesn't work
I'm wondering if you washed the car up or wiped it down with a ISO mix after the 2.5? Maybe this had something to do with the NXT sticking like it did? I've let NXT paste sit on a finish for a while without any difficulty removing it (a very thin coat is mandatory, of course).
I can see how a sealant on top of NXT might be a problem, though - competing polymers attempting to cure, perhaps curing each other almost instantly?
Also, in the "curing" vein - what about letting the NXT cure for 12-24 before throwing the souvern on top?
Thanks again for the write-up!
I'm wondering if you washed the car up or wiped it down with a ISO mix after the 2.5? Maybe this had something to do with the NXT sticking like it did? I've let NXT paste sit on a finish for a while without any difficulty removing it (a very thin coat is mandatory, of course).
I can see how a sealant on top of NXT might be a problem, though - competing polymers attempting to cure, perhaps curing each other almost instantly?
Also, in the "curing" vein - what about letting the NXT cure for 12-24 before throwing the souvern on top?
Thanks again for the write-up!
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Originally Posted by animeS2K,May 24 2005, 02:59 PM
Well, that WAS an education. Thanks for finding out what doesn't work
I'm wondering if you washed the car up or wiped it down with a ISO mix after the 2.5? Maybe this had something to do with the NXT sticking like it did? I've let NXT paste sit on a finish for a while without any difficulty removing it (a very thin coat is mandatory, of course).
I can see how a sealant on top of NXT might be a problem, though - competing polymers attempting to cure, perhaps curing each other almost instantly?
Also, in the "curing" vein - what about letting the NXT cure for 12-24 before throwing the souvern on top?
Thanks again for the write-up!
I'm wondering if you washed the car up or wiped it down with a ISO mix after the 2.5? Maybe this had something to do with the NXT sticking like it did? I've let NXT paste sit on a finish for a while without any difficulty removing it (a very thin coat is mandatory, of course).
I can see how a sealant on top of NXT might be a problem, though - competing polymers attempting to cure, perhaps curing each other almost instantly?
Also, in the "curing" vein - what about letting the NXT cure for 12-24 before throwing the souvern on top?
Thanks again for the write-up!