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Old 05-20-2005, 08:32 AM
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I left it on for 15mins
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Any idea on how it compares to P21S?
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Reminder ... you should to let WG cure 24 hours between coats
Old 05-21-2005, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by HunterEz,May 20 2005, 03:45 PM
Any idea on how it compares to P21S?
i actually prefer it due to it being slicker than p21s
Old 05-21-2005, 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by petraidm,May 21 2005, 07:11 AM
Reminder ... you should to let WG cure 24 hours between coats
ya, they say about zaino too.. 12 hours always worked for me
Old 05-21-2005, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by s2ksimon,May 21 2005, 08:39 AM
ya, they say about zaino too.. 12 hours always worked for me
That's only if you're using Zaino without ZFX... It's all about the curing (not drying) process of the synthetic polymers. I think I'm going to try AIO topped with NXT on the next customer car - the guys over at Autopia have indicated that it's a good long-lasting combo.
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sooo? how'd it come out?
Old 05-24-2005, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by animeS2K,May 24 2005, 02:48 PM
sooo? how'd it come out?
I'll have pics later.. as i have 'em still on the camera..

but here is the text version.. the full version will get posted Wednesday evening.. (or when i have more time)

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I decided to try a new combo..

Before:




WG SG over NXT.. A Big NO ! NO !

Here's what i did..

I hit the paint with the usual DACP for some stubborn swirls, (Sonus Orange Pad)

then

Poorboys SSR2.5 for medium ones (Sonus Pad Green) and to give it some "pop"

I then layered NXT paste wax by hand and left it for about 15mins..

A big No ! No!

After about 15mins it becomes a dry dusty haze to remove. It filled my MF towel with it and required a HELLUVA lot of elbow grease. Was very tough to remove. Then after all the removal, I had to break out my california duster as dust particles were everywhere.. What a pain !

I then decided to employ the "wax on wipe off" method (WOWO) for the second coat of NXT and it did wonders ! I applied it by hand in smaller sections, waited about 30secs to 1minute and it appeared to "rub in" better and smoother. I did not let it dry to a haze and I noticed it gave greater "pop" So after 2 coats of NXT .. 1 to haze and then 1 with WOWO method.

NXT by hand x 2:








I went for a WG topper..

Another Big No ! No !

I applied a nice thin coat of WG SG by hand, and within seconds, the WG SG stuck to the NXT like "Glue" A chemical adhesion education did i get! I kid you not ! I had to rub and rub like never before. It was like having to remove residual glue left on from the 80's. I thought my hands were going to fall off. Similar to the elbow grease of leaving #16 on too long or Klasse SG. My arms almost fell off.

After I finally removed it one section of the hood thankfully, i said no more WG for this process. I decided to top it with Pinnacle Souveran. Ooooh, this went on easy and removed easy. It gave the paint a much deeper look IMO. WOWO method as well.

NXT topped with Pinnacle Souveran:








So in the end, my recommendations:

Apply NXT , and then remove immediately with the WOWO method.

The longer it sits, the worse it will be to remove.

Do not top with a sealant like WG.

But rather a good carnuba. or Don't top it at all if its a light coloured car.


My stages:
DACP x 1 (Sonus Orange Pad, speed 4-5)
SSR2.5 x 1 (Sonus Green Pad speed 4-5)
NXT x 2 (by hand)
Pinnacle Souveran x 1 (by hand)
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Well, that WAS an education. Thanks for finding out what doesn't work

I'm wondering if you washed the car up or wiped it down with a ISO mix after the 2.5? Maybe this had something to do with the NXT sticking like it did? I've let NXT paste sit on a finish for a while without any difficulty removing it (a very thin coat is mandatory, of course).

I can see how a sealant on top of NXT might be a problem, though - competing polymers attempting to cure, perhaps curing each other almost instantly?

Also, in the "curing" vein - what about letting the NXT cure for 12-24 before throwing the souvern on top?

Thanks again for the write-up!
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Originally Posted by animeS2K,May 24 2005, 02:59 PM
Well, that WAS an education. Thanks for finding out what doesn't work

I'm wondering if you washed the car up or wiped it down with a ISO mix after the 2.5? Maybe this had something to do with the NXT sticking like it did? I've let NXT paste sit on a finish for a while without any difficulty removing it (a very thin coat is mandatory, of course).

I can see how a sealant on top of NXT might be a problem, though - competing polymers attempting to cure, perhaps curing each other almost instantly?

Also, in the "curing" vein - what about letting the NXT cure for 12-24 before throwing the souvern on top?

Thanks again for the write-up!
after the 2.5 i clay'd quickly.. re-rinsed, re-dried


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