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Old 01-04-2008, 08:28 AM
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Hey guys I'm new to the wash and wax scene. One of my friends got me into it and I've decided to jump on a Dewalt dw849 I found on craigslist. I understand you guys probably think that I'm nuts for buying a rotary instead of a PC, but this deal I found was ridiculous enough for me to drive 50 miles to pick it up. I'm not a complete noob b/c I've had some experience with using a pc when I cleaned up the headlights for two of our cars. I also plan on using the Dewalt to fix the paint job on a work truck and van, both with light scratches and heavy swirls, so this rotary won't be touching the S until I've done two cars. Based on the information I've read in the w&w section, a pc seemed out of the question for removing scratches over large areas.

Now that I'm done with the intro, I have some questions concerning the pads that came with the dewalt.

1.The guys I bough it from was trying to restore a beat up bronco and he quit before he was even done with the hood. But he managed to tear up one of the pads. My question is do these pads appear usable or should I go with new ones. I understand that they will need to be cleaned.


2.what exactly are these pads for? I've googled the model numbers on the pads and all the sites simply say they are 3m pads.

Two pads
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd41/Jc...lt/DSCF2596.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd41/Jc...lt/DSCF2595.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd41/Jc...lt/DSCF2594.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd41/Jc...lt/DSCF2593.jpg

Bonnet (kinda dirty any suggestion as to what I should wash it with?)
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd41/Jc...lt/DSCF2599.jpg

Here are some shots of the dewalt with an 8" velcro backing plate.
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd41/Jc...lt/DSCF2598.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd41/Jc...lt/DSCF2597.jpg

Here is a shot of me heading up to some twisty roads in the North GA mountains
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...986/Cruise.jpg

I'm looking forward to warmer weather to start using this baby
Old 01-04-2008, 09:21 AM
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Helping out with the pictures...




2.what exactly are these pads for? I've googled the model numbers on the pads and all the sites simply say they are 3m pads. ponder2.gif

Two pads





Bonnet (kinda dirty any suggestion as to what I should wash it with?)


Here are some shots of the dewalt with an 8" velcro backing plate.



Here is a shot of me heading up to some twisty roads in the North GA mountains cool.gif


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I work in a detail shop that only uses high speed buffers..

From what Ive gathered in my few months of working there...

Wool Pad will "fix" the paint the most as it will cut hard(and burn the paint alot faster) and if you dont know how to use it it will leave buffer trails all up and down your car(ive done it before) just get out the foam and you can get it out.

The foam pads can also be used though(the vary for different jobs) we have a regular pad I use to buff on decent paint and then a black finishing pad that really makes it shine...for the most part the foam pads will not leaving buffer trails or swirls...but still not as good as a PC.
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my thoughts:

be very careful with that machine- its a great machine, and it does have the ability to burn your paint

i would get new pads- imo, why cheap out ?
if you want to use the ones you have, use them on a beater to learn the machine... that would be as far as i would use those. the perfect it is like pads we used many years ago- pads with very little cutting action- the 3m product called perfect it is now a glaze.

the exception is your lambswool... i wouldnt bother cleaning it too much cause i would use it under an mf bonnet - i like using a pad with no cut to apply wax, and then use a lambswool with an mf bonnet to remove. the lambswool gives some cushion to the bonnet.

some info on your pad:
http://products3.3m.com/catalog/us/en001/a...ler/output_html

the new 3m perfect it product (that has my car in the ad) :
http://www.properautocare.com/3mperswirmar.html
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btw keep the speed down quite a bit since your new...i dont normaly go over 1800rpm
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Thanks for the replies guys.

Wanabe,
Mmm, let me see if I get what you mean. The black pad has little cutting action and is a polisher...what about the white one (not the bonnet)?

I plan on getting a edge 2000 kit for the S when I've become proficient with the rotary. I was planning on just using the black and white pads for the truck and van for practice and simply because the paint on the truck is pretty bad that I would hate to take some new pads to.

Also, is cut the same thing as abrasive?


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Do you buff with the pads? I thought they were for polishing, and buffing is just wiping off the polish right? Sorry I'm new to the terminology.
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choungsgay....woo woo! another dewalt user. congrats! i use a dewalt myself and i swear by it. just make sure to practice, because buffer trails are more common with rotarys and so is burning the paint.

make sure to pick up some 3m perfect it 3000 swirl remover! it works wonders with those perfect it pads, but i also agree with wanabe, get some new pads.

id have to feel the lambswool, but i usually use the wool pads for extreme cutting, all of the foam pads are for light to moderate cutting and polishing. be sure to visit buffandshine.com for some really good pads for the dewalt!


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