Anyone have problems with 3m swirl remover?
05-12-2005, 03:10 PM
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Anyone have problems with 3m swirl remover?
I have the one that says for "dark cars" and tried using the porter cable. It seems to dry and cake up real quick...am I using too much? Too little? Once it dries out, it is very, very hard to buff off or remove from the car..what am I doing wrong? 
05-12-2005, 04:30 PM
#2
sounds like you might be using too much product...
it should not be caking. it will dry as you work it and might dust, but shouldnt cake.
is it new, or has it been sitting around awhile?
it should not be caking. it will dry as you work it and might dust, but shouldnt cake.
is it new, or has it been sitting around awhile?
05-12-2005, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by wanabe,May 12 2005, 04:30 PM
sounds like you might be using too much product...
it should not be caking. it will dry as you work it and might dust, but shouldnt cake.
is it new, or has it been sitting around awhile?
it should not be caking. it will dry as you work it and might dust, but shouldnt cake.
is it new, or has it been sitting around awhile?
Do you moisten the pad with quick detailer spray or anything?
05-12-2005, 04:37 PM
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BTW, your detailing skills aren't for hire, are they? 
I have a nice purty black NSX with some fine scratches and some swirls ready for a full makeover 
I have a nice purty black NSX with some fine scratches and some swirls ready for a full makeover
05-12-2005, 04:40 PM
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In my experience, the SMR won't run dry, so that shouldn't be a worry... it will go pretty much clear if you work it enough (which you should) and leave a very thin almost completely clear coating on the car.
Of course, it's easier to tell exactly what stage it's at on dark cars (from thick/opaque to worked in).
Of course, it's easier to tell exactly what stage it's at on dark cars (from thick/opaque to worked in).
05-12-2005, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by animeS2K,May 12 2005, 04:40 PM
In my experience, the SMR won't run dry, so that shouldn't be a worry... it will go pretty much clear if you work it enough (which you should) and leave a very thin almost completely clear coating on the car.
Of course, it's easier to tell exactly what stage it's at on dark cars (from thick/opaque to worked in).
Of course, it's easier to tell exactly what stage it's at on dark cars (from thick/opaque to worked in).
05-12-2005, 05:01 PM
#7
I'd go for the orange. It cuts a little better. I just used the orange and 3M SMR (3000) on this car yesterday, which hadn't had a coat of wax or proper wash since it was new three years ago... It was in BAD shape. Even with repeated applications and the orange pad, it took a while to remove the swirl marks and light scratches...
Good luck with it.
Good luck with it.
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05-12-2005, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Saint_Spinner,May 12 2005, 04:37 PM
BTW, your detailing skills aren't for hire, are they? I have a nice purty black NSX with some fine scratches and some swirls ready for a full makeover
I have a nice purty black NSX with some fine scratches and some swirls ready for a full makeover they are free- right here!!!
fine cuts and swirl removers should be worked well imo- i use the "box" technique.
i work a 2x2 square area at a time- begin by going side to side in the box. then diagonal, and finish up with front to back.
with smr you dont have to worry about over working the car- you can not hurt your car (assuming the pads are in good shape) and can not over work it.
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great job, and nice pics animes2k!!
05-12-2005, 07:47 PM
#9
...what wanabe said ... and thanks, wanabe 
It's funny, cuz I called Sal about the clay being too abrasive (leaving sweep marks) and the client ended up wanting the full SMR treatment anyway. FWIW, I think I'm not going to be using Zaino clay in the future. And with my bad experience with this last batch of Z2 Pro (way too thick), I used it without ZFX on this car (final coat), but it had a few hours to cure while I did the interior (client also had to run out and drove around with it curing in the sun haha - came off great).
Now if I could just justify the hours invested for the money received... my OCD gets the better of me.
SS, if you want to drive that beast to the other coast, I'll take care of it for you
It's funny, cuz I called Sal about the clay being too abrasive (leaving sweep marks) and the client ended up wanting the full SMR treatment anyway. FWIW, I think I'm not going to be using Zaino clay in the future. And with my bad experience with this last batch of Z2 Pro (way too thick), I used it without ZFX on this car (final coat), but it had a few hours to cure while I did the interior (client also had to run out and drove around with it curing in the sun haha - came off great).
Now if I could just justify the hours invested for the money received... my OCD gets the better of me.
SS, if you want to drive that beast to the other coast, I'll take care of it for you
05-13-2005, 04:54 AM
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i stopped using 2 years ago.. it lacked the additive polish for "pop"
it tends to dull a finish and i never liked its ease of use..
meg's dacp and poorboys ssr series is miles above it imo..
if you are a serious swirl eradictor, then i suggest those products instead..
it tends to dull a finish and i never liked its ease of use..
meg's dacp and poorboys ssr series is miles above it imo..
if you are a serious swirl eradictor, then i suggest those products instead..