[QUOTE=martha,Apr 4 2007, 04:16 PM] Yes, hoping for 100% is idealistic.

 

Granny, our thoughts and prayers are with you on this one, I know things will work out and you will find the strength to move on. Thinking of you, always.

 

Not knowing the details, I not sure what that means. I know when I went to Kindergarden we were not not allowed to blink.... but then it was the same way at home. Now days, the inmates run just about everything. The courts have made it very tough for teachers. My daughter teaches 5 grade and has parents who threaten her for failing their kid; hell, the kids threaten her. I hope things work out and it's not as bad as it may seem. If it is not resolved quickly I think I'd be hanging around with a movie camera if came to that, as well as pushing it up the ladder.

 

Wow, Granny...this is awful. But there really needs to be a full investigation by Social Services about what is going on in the boy's home to cause him to behave this way. Are there any procedures that the school must follow in a situation like this? I assume so. I'd say let them do what they are supposed to, then take action is if isn't sufficient. It is very possible that Olivia isn't the only victim. So sad for all concerned. Keep us posted!!

 

Granny, this makes me sick to hear this. 5 years old? There isn't any place he could be getting this from except home (or day care after school) and the parents are 100% responsible. Hang tough, don't back down, kick them where it hurts.... you're strong enough and we know you'll do all you can and then some.

I know our little S cars can hold golf clubs but I wonder just how many weapons that little trunk can hold!!!

 

Read this:

Fifth graders have sex in classroom

 

Very sad and sorry for this situation,Granny.
My prayers are with you.
Sorry,I could not be of more help;don't know much about little kids,and much less about your school system.
Wish you,it gets settled,a.s.a.p.

 

Granny,

This same thing happened to my older daughter, now 13, when she was 4 and we were still in NC. After a few days of no action on the part of the school, we got a call from them one afternoon to come get Cassie, she was sitting on top of the boy and wailing the beejeebus out of him. Of course the wrote her up for the incident, but the Director made a point of balling up her copy and throwing it into the trash while we were still in earshot. Never again a problem. The sight of a tiny 4-year old girl beating up a rather large 5 year old boy still brings a smile to my face, even though I know that's the wrong reaction 'socially".

We will pray for you and your family that a reasonable and suitable solution presents itself.

Dave

 

Okay, seems we have a couple of issues here. One is a teacher who has no control of her classroom and is overwhelmed. I call that an administrative problem but when Livvy comes to tell her something and she shoos her away with "oh Livvy, go play," I call that a personal problem that involves me and mine and that makes me mad as hell. Supposedly that is being addressed. I want Livvy moved to another class.

The second issue is a kid who is not getting good parenting and who has learned to lie about his behavior. He says he didn't do or say anything so it's his word against Livvy's. Luckily, the principal and guidance counselor believe her. And the boy, being a 5-yr-old, comes up to Livvy all mad and asks her why she told on him. Seems other parents have also had problems with him as well as the teacher. This is also the second incident with Livvy. I want his parents reprimanded and made to sit home with their kid for a couple of weeks and teach him what's appropriate and what's not in school and anywhere else.

As for the incidents, I call grabbing at someone's underwear saying "show me your butt" assault, 5 or not. The latest one was "show me your boobs" but without any touching." The incidents happened on the playground and right before class in the cafeteria with monitors all around who say they can't see everything all the time. Maybe they can't but with a known troublemaker, I would think they'd keep a special eye out for him.

The first incident was overlooked because "they're only curious 5 year olds" but this second time cannot be overlooked and I want something more forceful done. I don't want this to escalate any further. I will patiently (I hope) wait to see what Child Protective Services does and the school has a bullying policy that also goes all the way to the state level as well.

Meanwhile, Park, it's taking everything in my power not to tell her to deck him the next time he touches her. If I know my granddaughter, she will anyway. Let's hope the state puts pressure on this principal to handle this kid and his parents properly. Thanks again everyone for your prayers, support, and input and I'll keep you posted on what develops. You guys have really helped and I'm a bit calmer after talking to Livvy last night and seeing she's doing pretty good behind this mess. And don't worry, Rob, we will stay on that principal. I will be going to the school the first chance I get just to sit in on Livvy's class, as will her mom again. I'm still ticked that the principal can't talk to the grandmother though.

 

Glad you are feeling better about this. And also that the principal and counselor believe Livvy. It is good that you are not alone in pressuring the school and Social Services to take action. Seems it is overdue with this boy.