SilverKnight

Go look around any military base, brant you live in WA go to ft. lewis or Mchord and what signs do you see all over and on the freeway? Bush/Cheney. None of kerry.

Also there were 2 polls done on active military and Bush had a lead 4 to1. Need I find those to satisfy you? We need to have s2ki poll to

lig

What is a "vetran"

mikegarrison

I wish I could say "you've got to be joking," but I know you aren't. This is a classic example of the "big lie" technique in action. Bush was 100% incredibly vulnerable on the Vietnam issue. Not only did he dodge the war, but he then dodged his cushy National Guard service. He managed to get himself some kind of permission to skip his service and go work on a political campaign in another state. His worst fear, when running as a "war president" was to go up against an actual veteran.

That's why he slimed McCain four years ago, and that's why this "Swift Boat Veteran" thing was started up to neutralize Kerry's natural advantage. In other threads on this forum you also see people asking for "full disclosure of Kerry's records" etc. Almost like it was Bush who had been wounded serving in Vietnam, while Kerry had been dodging.

And no, I don't think serving in the military is a prerequisite for being President. But I'm just pissed off by the slimeball tactics Bush has used against McCain and Kerry. And I'm pissed off when people parrot statements that Kerry will be "weak against terror" and "soft on defense" when they are talking about a discharged veteran and comparing him with a country-club wannabe jet jock.

At least Clinton never downplayed Bush Sr.'s or Dole's war records. He never tried to slime their service. He just said it was irrelevant to the future. But then again he wasn't trying to run as a war candidate either.

Oh, and Clinton didn't go to Canada. Not unless Oxford suddenly moved to Canada when I wasn't looking.

Silver, you spout a lot of stuff but it's not clear you really think about any of it. Or that you care whether it is right or wrong, as long as it fits your preferences. And for that matter, unlike the rest of us you are the right age to be serving in the military right now. If this cause is so just, why aren't you in Iraq?

lig

^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^ Righton, Mike!

Draft the Bush Twins!

brantshali

I was just down that way about 4 hours ago and saw a fairly even distribution of Kerry and Bush signs, actually...

Please note that I didn't quote the active duty part of your post...I've seen the same polls and never doubted that the majority of active duty military support Bush. The military has long been considered predominantly Republican.

My question was about vetrans. I wasn't aware that the majority supported Bush. The distribution I've noticed (albeit not scientific) has seemed somewhat evenly divided on the issue.

brantshali

dean

It's another example of uninformed opinion presented as fact. Vets are split nearly down the middle with 42% in favor of Kerry.

Dean

dean

How convenient, you throw the subject of Viet Nam into the fray and then dismiss its relevancy when you run out of "facts". Perhaps you skipped school the day the war in Viet Nam was covered in History class? I lived it, so get your facts straight.

Again, you are clearly demonstrating your ignorance on the subject. *Every* poll that I have seen has indicated that vets are nearly evenly divided in their support.

Dean

SilverKnight

Actually I could go on and on and on about Vietnam. Just wanted to throw a counter argument out there to the Bush draft "controversy" which again I think Vietnam should play no role in this election.


I love your "spin" on everything I say You Kerry supporters. To many Kerry supporters on this thread I give up hopeless

dean

I'm quite sure that you "could go on and on about Vietnam" as you seem to enjoy wallowing in your own ignorance on a public forum. Your efforts would be better spent on doing some research on the subject rather than on your post count. It's all too apparent that you have nothing meaningful to contribute to this thread other than some comedic relief, and even that has grown predictable and tiresome.

Dean