Vintage FC Track Impressions
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I believe the crush washer is on the drain plug. Both incidents on Sunday involved the oil filter, not the drain plug. I don't really think reuse of the crush washer was a factor in either failure.
I"ve always been a "hand tight" kind of guy about oil filters. However, when I put a wrench on mine before Monday's sessions, I did tighten it about 1/8 turn. I'll probably use a wrench and moderate effort to tighten it from now on, in light of the failures on Sunday.
I"ve always been a "hand tight" kind of guy about oil filters. However, when I put a wrench on mine before Monday's sessions, I did tighten it about 1/8 turn. I'll probably use a wrench and moderate effort to tighten it from now on, in light of the failures on Sunday.
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Originally Posted by RedY2KS2k,Oct 27 2004, 10:16 PM
I"ve always been a "hand tight" kind of guy about oil filters. However, when I put a wrench on mine before Monday's sessions, I did tighten it about 1/8 turn. I'll probably use a wrench and moderate effort to tighten it from now on, in light of the failures on Sunday.
My oil filter instructions says to tighten it 7/8's of a turn after the gasket contacts the seat. I don't know about you, but that is very difficult to do by hand. I now tighten it to one full turn, an extra 1/8 of a turn more. Careful, it's possible to deform the oil filter gasket if it's tightened too much. I have to use the filter socket wrench and ratchet to tighten it, but it does not come loose.
I also have several different wrenches to remove the filter. The socket wrench doesn't remove it when it's this tight. The one that I like the best has three movable fingers that tighten into the side of the filter when you remove the oil filter. This tool always removes the filter, but crushes the side slightly in the process.
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My best "Novice 3" story:
On the Starting Grid, Rob took my picture after my second 20 minute session and asked me, "How fast were you going?" I told him, "I have no idea how fast I was going.....I was too busy lookin' for the next friggin' cone marking the corner entry!"
Btw, my instructor was Chris, who had the Turbo-charged Miata....and he was terrific
The most amazing Track Time event: I actually passed an S on the long straight-away on the last full lap of my last session. It surprised the crap out of me....when this NFR in front was 'pointing to pass' to ME How could I ignore his plea?
On the Starting Grid, Rob took my picture after my second 20 minute session and asked me, "How fast were you going?" I told him, "I have no idea how fast I was going.....I was too busy lookin' for the next friggin' cone marking the corner entry!"
Btw, my instructor was Chris, who had the Turbo-charged Miata....and he was terrific
The most amazing Track Time event: I actually passed an S on the long straight-away on the last full lap of my last session. It surprised the crap out of me....when this NFR in front was 'pointing to pass' to ME How could I ignore his plea?
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Originally Posted by boiler,Oct 28 2004, 12:35 AM
My oil filter instructions says to tighten it 7/8's of a turn after the gasket contacts the seat. I don't know about you, but that is very difficult to do by hand. I now tighten it to one full turn, an extra 1/8 of a turn more.
This begs the question, why haven't we heard of this happening on the street... we all know many of the younger hot shoes drive these cars as hard there, as many do at the track.
I think I'm more inclined to do Billman's $5 spring/clamp backup than risk exceeding the OEM install recommendations.
BTW, nice to hear so many Vintage now have the Track bug. If you are like me, all those aging aches & pains disappear to the excitement and challenge of bettering your last lap time -- no matter how fast or how slow it was.
#76
Originally Posted by dlq04,Oct 28 2004, 06:01 AM
[...] it should not make any difference - track or street - if the filter than backs off it should be a Honda covered failure IMO. True, it's impossible to prove one installed it by-the-book but how can Honda conversely prove you did not.
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I think it was our mistake for not making a filter wrench tightening a pre-track inspection. Just my opinion. (assuming that's really, actually what happened -- that the filter backed off because it wasn't tight enough -- there are some other theories).
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Originally Posted by Chazmo,Oct 28 2004, 07:25 AM
Interesting point, Dave, but I would be very hard-pressed to tell a district manager that my S (with racing numbers taped to the side) was just flatbedded in because a filter spun off due Honda's mistake. If, in fact, a dealer had done the last oil change... well, maybe.
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Originally Posted by dlq04,Oct 28 2004, 05:01 AM
I think I'm more inclined to do Billman's $5 spring/clamp backup than risk exceeding the OEM install recommendations.
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Originally Posted by dlq04,Oct 28 2004, 05:01 AM
I think I'm more inclined to do Billman's $5 spring/clamp backup than risk exceeding the OEM install recommendations.
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