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Old 05-30-2019 | 05:19 AM
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Imagine a car with the reliability of a Fiat 500, the styling of a Chrysler 300, the sportiness of a Renault, and the ride of a Nissan Sentra.
Our 500 Abarth was a brilliant car, no issues at all. We traded it in for an Giulia in October '17 which has been brilliant, and I'd say the best driving sedan I've ever owned.
Old 05-31-2019 | 06:19 PM
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Our 500 Abarth was a brilliant car, no issues at all. We traded it in for an Giulia in October '17 which has been brilliant, and I'd say the best driving sedan I've ever owned.
Count your blessings.

Fiat makes some very fun machines. But many of them have many, many issues. I've known people who had great luck with their Mini Coopers, too. But I see the brands that are frequent flyers at the shop where most local out-of-warranty European car owners come for repairs. Of course, Range Rovers lead the parade of course but Fiat, BMW, and Jaguar are also well represented.
Old 06-02-2019 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by tof
Count your blessings.

Fiat makes some very fun machines. But many of them have many, many issues. I've known people who had great luck with their Mini Coopers, too. But I see the brands that are frequent flyers at the shop where most local out-of-warranty European car owners come for repairs. Of course, Range Rovers lead the parade of course but Fiat, BMW, and Jaguar are also well represented.
Around here, VW owners go to different shops.
Old 06-02-2019 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by tof
Count your blessings.

Fiat makes some very fun machines. But many of them have many, many issues. I've known people who had great luck with their Mini Coopers, too. But I see the brands that are frequent flyers at the shop where most local out-of-warranty European car owners come for repairs. Of course, Range Rovers lead the parade of course but Fiat, BMW, and Jaguar are also well represented.
I tend to go by personal experiences, I’ve had 2 Land/Range Rovers and they were both problem free, so

I’ve owned pretty much every European brand and they’ve all been fine. Our Chevy truck hasn’t been perfect, and neither has my S2000.

Perhaps the people you know have bad luck.
Old 06-05-2019 | 03:46 PM
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Apparently, FCA called it off today.
Old 06-05-2019 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by sam_spider
I tend to go by personal experiences, I’ve had 2 Land/Range Rovers and they were both problem free, so

I’ve owned pretty much every European brand and they’ve all been fine. Our Chevy truck hasn’t been perfect, and neither has my S2000.

Perhaps the people you know have bad luck.
When I owned 2 SRT dodge vehicles they were 100% defect free and completely reliable over many miles of hard driving, we also had a Jeep SUV which was exactly the same, despite all of the trash talk about such vehicles on Honda forums the three vehicles proved to have less factory defects than any of my Hondas. They often get a bad rep but mine were all fine.
Old 06-05-2019 | 07:38 PM
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Most modern vehicle models are very reliable. So I am not surprised by reports of trouble-free Fiats, Chryslers, etc. However, some brands are more reliable overall than others. When I make a purchasing decision I rely more on hard data from sources like Consumer Reports and other organizations that do customer surveys (for reliability, not for performance evaluations). Surveys of large numbers of owners only provides imperfect data at best but I believe such sources to be more reliable than anecdotal information. I factor in the experience of the shop I use because of their extensive experience with many different makes and models.
Old 06-05-2019 | 09:02 PM
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^ Mike, I agree.
Old 06-06-2019 | 12:41 PM
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Old 06-06-2019 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by tof
Imagine a car with the reliability of a Fiat 500, the styling of a Chrysler 300, the sportiness of a Renault, and the ride of a Nissan Sentra.
I just vomited in my mouth :P


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