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02-03-2005, 03:45 AM
#71
Matt, not knowing the answer to your question, I looked it up on Answers.com and found the following. Our first jeep was a Grand Cherokee Laredo with a 6 cyl engine. The one we now have is a Grand Cherokee Limited with an 8 cyl engine. Apparently there are two distinct versions of the Jeep Cherokee as you can see:
Jeep Grand Cherokee
A Jeep Grand Cherokee is a large family-oriented SUV made by Jeep, a division of Daimler-Chrysler. It is a 4 wheel drive automobile. European Grand Cherokees are manufactured in Austria by Magna Steyr.
1993
The ZJ models, manufactured from 1993 to 1998, come in 2 general trims, the Laredo and the Limited. The Laredo is the base model, featuring a medium grey plastic lower body paneling and five star spoke aluminum wheels. The Limited is the premium model, with the lower body paneling being the same color as the vehicle color. The Limited also boasts features such as power sunroof, mirrors, seats, windows, and door locks, a basic onboard computer, and waffle-like cast aluminum wheels. Specialty models include the TSi, Orvis, and 5.9Limited.
For 1993 alone, Jeep resurrected the Grand Wagoneer name for a special luxury version of the Grand Cherokee with the 5.2 L V8.
Engines:
1993-1995 4.0 L AMC I6, 190 hp
1996-1998 4.0 L Power Tech I6, 185 hp
1993-1998 5.2 L Magnum V8, 220 hp
1998 5.9 L Magnum V8, 245 hp Limited
1998
The redesigned WJ 1998 Grand Cherokee shared just 127 parts with its predecessor.
1998-2004 4.0 L Power Tech I6, 195 hp
1998-2004 4.7 L PowerTech V8, 235 hp
2002-2004 4.7 L High Output PowerTech V8, 265 hp
2005
An all-new WK Grand Cherokee debuted in 2005.
__________________________________________________ ___________
Jeep Cherokee
The Jeep Cherokee is an SUV. It began as a full-size model, along with the similar Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer. But 1984's unibody Cherokee set the stage for the modern SUV, being a cross between a station wagon and truck with little pickup truck heritage. It is built in the United States and Beijing, China.
1974
The first vehicle to use the Cherokee name was the 1974 SJ.
1984
The XJ Cherokee was introduced in 1984 as the first unibody Jeep. It was to be replaced by the larger Jeep Grand Cherokee (ZJ) in 1993, but the continuing popularity of the original Cherokee caused the company to rethink this decision. It was eventually replaced in 2002 by the Jeep Liberty (KJ), though that vehicle is called the Cherokee in some markets.
An upscale trim line on the Cherokee from 1984 through 1990 was the Jeep Wagoneer. It was sold as a separate model, and had plastic wood trim on the outside.
Engines:
1984-1996 2.5 L AMC I4, 121 hp-125 hp
1984-1986 2.8 L GM-sourced V6
1984-1990 4.0 L AMC I6, 177 hp
1991-1996 4.0 L AMC "High Output" I6, 190 hp
1997
The Cherokee was redesigned in 1997. Both 4- and 6-cylinder engines were offered up to the last year, when only the six was available.
Engines:
1997-2000 2.5 L AMC I4, 125 hp
1997-1999 4.0 L Power Tech I6, 190 hp
2000-2001 4.0 L Power Tech I6, 190 hp
Jeep Grand Cherokee
A Jeep Grand Cherokee is a large family-oriented SUV made by Jeep, a division of Daimler-Chrysler. It is a 4 wheel drive automobile. European Grand Cherokees are manufactured in Austria by Magna Steyr.
1993
The ZJ models, manufactured from 1993 to 1998, come in 2 general trims, the Laredo and the Limited. The Laredo is the base model, featuring a medium grey plastic lower body paneling and five star spoke aluminum wheels. The Limited is the premium model, with the lower body paneling being the same color as the vehicle color. The Limited also boasts features such as power sunroof, mirrors, seats, windows, and door locks, a basic onboard computer, and waffle-like cast aluminum wheels. Specialty models include the TSi, Orvis, and 5.9Limited.
For 1993 alone, Jeep resurrected the Grand Wagoneer name for a special luxury version of the Grand Cherokee with the 5.2 L V8.
Engines:
1993-1995 4.0 L AMC I6, 190 hp
1996-1998 4.0 L Power Tech I6, 185 hp
1993-1998 5.2 L Magnum V8, 220 hp
1998 5.9 L Magnum V8, 245 hp Limited
1998
The redesigned WJ 1998 Grand Cherokee shared just 127 parts with its predecessor.
1998-2004 4.0 L Power Tech I6, 195 hp
1998-2004 4.7 L PowerTech V8, 235 hp
2002-2004 4.7 L High Output PowerTech V8, 265 hp
2005
An all-new WK Grand Cherokee debuted in 2005.
__________________________________________________ ___________
Jeep Cherokee
The Jeep Cherokee is an SUV. It began as a full-size model, along with the similar Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer. But 1984's unibody Cherokee set the stage for the modern SUV, being a cross between a station wagon and truck with little pickup truck heritage. It is built in the United States and Beijing, China.
1974
The first vehicle to use the Cherokee name was the 1974 SJ.
1984
The XJ Cherokee was introduced in 1984 as the first unibody Jeep. It was to be replaced by the larger Jeep Grand Cherokee (ZJ) in 1993, but the continuing popularity of the original Cherokee caused the company to rethink this decision. It was eventually replaced in 2002 by the Jeep Liberty (KJ), though that vehicle is called the Cherokee in some markets.
An upscale trim line on the Cherokee from 1984 through 1990 was the Jeep Wagoneer. It was sold as a separate model, and had plastic wood trim on the outside.
Engines:
1984-1996 2.5 L AMC I4, 121 hp-125 hp
1984-1986 2.8 L GM-sourced V6
1984-1990 4.0 L AMC I6, 177 hp
1991-1996 4.0 L AMC "High Output" I6, 190 hp
1997
The Cherokee was redesigned in 1997. Both 4- and 6-cylinder engines were offered up to the last year, when only the six was available.
Engines:
1997-2000 2.5 L AMC I4, 125 hp
1997-1999 4.0 L Power Tech I6, 190 hp
2000-2001 4.0 L Power Tech I6, 190 hp
02-03-2005, 02:58 PM
#72
Another editorial excerpt on US vs Japanese cars..
JANUARY 31, 2005
BY JOE SAWARD
The car industry is not looking very healthy at the moment because some of the big car companies are being badly managed. Very few of them are making money from building cars. They may make money from credit operations or from some of their model ranges but these successful models rarely pay for the money invested in them. Much has been done to make car companies more efficient and cost-effective but the fact remains that most car companies will not make profit unless the factories are working at full capacity and at the moment there is too much production capacity compared to demand. Car companies can build 80m vehicles a year but the world only wants 60m cars at the moment. The car companies have continually and systematically over-estimated future demand. China will create more demand but production facility are being built there to meet that, the factories in Europe and North America are not going to increase production unless demand increases. Thus companies have been discounting heavily to move cars even if the profits from those cars is negligible. This has flooded the market with new cars and that means that demand is now scaling back because consumers are making do with older cars until the economy improves.
There are only a few well-run companies that are making money on their cars, notably Toyota, Honda and Nissan. They are successful because they are efficient not only in terms of manufacturing but also in product planning. They build good cars. They do not need to be propped up by governments or mergers and acquisitions and accounting fireworks.
The US car industry is geared to the wrong market. The US has low oil prices and few controls on emissions. The Japanese and the Europeans build cleaner and more efficient cars because of high fuel costs and governments pushing them to improve their emissions. The Japanese won a foothold in the US and Europe because they built more efficient and cost-effective cars after the fuel crisis of 1973. Having won ground with small cars they moved into the more profitable luxury car sector. The US and European firms have adopted many Japanese production techniques but have still to match the quality and reputation of the Japanese. In an effort to meet the Japanese challenge the car companies began to consolidate and create global businesses, introducing new economies of scale and "platforms" capable of building different models. The Japanese are still more efficient. There is a chance for the US to catch up if it gets ahead in new technologies and alternative fuels but they need to move fast to catch up and win back market share.
One of the biggest problems for US and European car companies is getting the best from demoralised work forces. The Japanese have shown that success in F1 can be a huge benefit for a company in terms of corporate morale. It can be useful for technology and for instilling in engineers the need to work quickly.
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BTW, I checked out Answer.com since I have not heard of it before. A good source to know about. Thanks Valentine. However, when I asked it what MG was it said "Might Go". I thought that was really funny, and sometimes true. I quess it's truck slang. The late Mr. Kimber, founder of MG, would not be impressed however.
JANUARY 31, 2005
BY JOE SAWARD
The car industry is not looking very healthy at the moment because some of the big car companies are being badly managed. Very few of them are making money from building cars. They may make money from credit operations or from some of their model ranges but these successful models rarely pay for the money invested in them. Much has been done to make car companies more efficient and cost-effective but the fact remains that most car companies will not make profit unless the factories are working at full capacity and at the moment there is too much production capacity compared to demand. Car companies can build 80m vehicles a year but the world only wants 60m cars at the moment. The car companies have continually and systematically over-estimated future demand. China will create more demand but production facility are being built there to meet that, the factories in Europe and North America are not going to increase production unless demand increases. Thus companies have been discounting heavily to move cars even if the profits from those cars is negligible. This has flooded the market with new cars and that means that demand is now scaling back because consumers are making do with older cars until the economy improves.
There are only a few well-run companies that are making money on their cars, notably Toyota, Honda and Nissan. They are successful because they are efficient not only in terms of manufacturing but also in product planning. They build good cars. They do not need to be propped up by governments or mergers and acquisitions and accounting fireworks.
The US car industry is geared to the wrong market. The US has low oil prices and few controls on emissions. The Japanese and the Europeans build cleaner and more efficient cars because of high fuel costs and governments pushing them to improve their emissions. The Japanese won a foothold in the US and Europe because they built more efficient and cost-effective cars after the fuel crisis of 1973. Having won ground with small cars they moved into the more profitable luxury car sector. The US and European firms have adopted many Japanese production techniques but have still to match the quality and reputation of the Japanese. In an effort to meet the Japanese challenge the car companies began to consolidate and create global businesses, introducing new economies of scale and "platforms" capable of building different models. The Japanese are still more efficient. There is a chance for the US to catch up if it gets ahead in new technologies and alternative fuels but they need to move fast to catch up and win back market share.
One of the biggest problems for US and European car companies is getting the best from demoralised work forces. The Japanese have shown that success in F1 can be a huge benefit for a company in terms of corporate morale. It can be useful for technology and for instilling in engineers the need to work quickly.
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BTW, I checked out Answer.com since I have not heard of it before. A good source to know about. Thanks Valentine. However, when I asked it what MG was it said "Might Go". I thought that was really funny, and sometimes true. I quess it's truck slang. The late Mr. Kimber, founder of MG, would not be impressed however.
You're welcome. Oddly enough I read about it in the Wall Street Journal (the actual printed version) 
04-26-2005, 05:25 PM
#74
Registered User
I recommend a "smart" battery trickle charger, like those made by Deltran. They will keep the battery fully charged, have no downside, and will extend the life of the battery by reducing "crystallization" of the plates.
I bought mine from Griot's, it is nominally 12V @ 1.25 amps, but puts out closer to 14VDC.
Interesting thing happened to me that I will relate:
MY OE battery died when i left the inerior light on for several weeks. Completely dead - "red" indicator on battery.
I removed the battery, and put it on a 10 amp charger for 24 hours, then a 2 amp for another 24 hours. The car started, but the battery indicator still showed "red" without the "blue ring".
I hooked up my Deltran (Griot's) and left it for 4 days, and it restored the blue ring. My $125 big rig did not. May have just needed a longer, lower amp charge, but this was a first.
The Deltran comes with a nifty pigtail lead that you permanently attach to the battery - and then a foolproof connector allows you to make risk, spark free connections to the trickler. When the battery is fully charged, the circuitry in the tender "floats" the current, so you do not overcharge the battery.
I bought mine from Griot's, it is nominally 12V @ 1.25 amps, but puts out closer to 14VDC.
Interesting thing happened to me that I will relate:
MY OE battery died when i left the inerior light on for several weeks. Completely dead - "red" indicator on battery.
I removed the battery, and put it on a 10 amp charger for 24 hours, then a 2 amp for another 24 hours. The car started, but the battery indicator still showed "red" without the "blue ring".
I hooked up my Deltran (Griot's) and left it for 4 days, and it restored the blue ring. My $125 big rig did not. May have just needed a longer, lower amp charge, but this was a first.
The Deltran comes with a nifty pigtail lead that you permanently attach to the battery - and then a foolproof connector allows you to make risk, spark free connections to the trickler. When the battery is fully charged, the circuitry in the tender "floats" the current, so you do not overcharge the battery.
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