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Old 03-31-2010, 08:36 AM
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I think the idea has potential. I also think that the hydraulic hybrid idea for delivery trucks makes sense too. http://www.hydraulicspneumatics.com/200/Is...lse/38545/Issue

What I am wondering though, is why no one makes a diesel electric hybrid.
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Originally Posted by SheDrivesIt,Mar 31 2010, 08:36 AM
What I am wondering though, is why no one makes a diesel electric hybrid.
Seattle's transit system has a whole fleet of diesel-electric hybrids.

http://metro.kingcounty.gov/am/vehicles/hy-diesel.html
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This video answers the issues raised.

http://videos.howstuffworks.com/science-ch...r-car-video.htm
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Originally Posted by dlq04,Mar 30 2010, 07:26 PM
tof, thanks for the added research. Personnally I just shrugged off Mike's comments as - some people just can't wait to kill a good idea.
Can I be pessimistic because the article says "Tata Motors is ... set to introduce the car that runs on air", but the article is almost 2 years old. There's no mention of this on Tata's website. Maybe the author mistook a car show design concept for something that really exists.
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Originally Posted by dlq04,Mar 31 2010, 08:40 PM
Amazing. Thanks Dave.
Old 04-06-2010, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Mar 31 2010, 02:02 AM
4350 psi. And you think that's not a safety concern?

A full tank of gasoline is a safety concern too. Anything with enough stored energy to drive a car around for hundreds of miles is a safety concern.

Keep in mind, I didn't say it was impossible. I just took exception to your brushing off of the issue based on backyard propane tanks.
Not to beat a dead horse...

ok...maybe a little

I never referred to "backyard propane tanks" and I also withdrew my example of vehicle propane tanks. Again, if Honda's Clarity, which is on the road in small numbers, can store hydrogen at 5000 psi in a way that satisfies safety concerns, I expect storage materials technology is at a point where tanks capable of storing gasses at 5000 psi can also maintain their integrity during a major crash.

Of course I'm not sure cars made for the Indian market would have tanks that were all that safe or that such tanks could fit Tata's vehicle price strategy.

But as Travler pointed out, its probably all moot anyway.
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Originally Posted by dlq04,Mar 31 2010, 05:40 PM
Thanks for the link. At about 1:10, it was mentioned that the compressed air is used to push down on pistons to drive the crankshaft. I have heard that using the piston mechanism is very inefficient because it must convert up/down motion to circular motion and a lot of energy is lost. Given that there is no combustion, I wonder if there is a more efficient way to utilize the compressed air to drive the wheels.
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but with air piston it's more like a two stroke . i.e push and return unless a four stroke which has a compression stroke where you lose efficiency.
A turbine or something closer to a Wankel might give you more bang for the buck so to speak but they were never really that efficient as a combustion cycle either.
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