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01-10-2005 | 07:25 PM

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Matt_in_VA

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Originally Posted by ralper,Jan 10 2005, 10:09 PM

Rob,

Ever since then: I have been "Mad as Hell".

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01-10-2005 | 07:32 PM

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ralper

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Originally Posted by matt_inva,Jan 10 2005, 10:25 PM

Rob,

Ever since then: I have been "Mad as Hell".

Me too. Aside from the fact that Cheyefsky was right in his prediction, it was a great movie.

(I don't remember the next line but I think it was, "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any longer.")

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01-10-2005 | 07:38 PM

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mikegarrison

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Originally Posted by ralper,Jan 10 2005, 06:09 PM

This isn't a new issue nor is it something that has started to happen in recent years. In 1976 the movie "Network" written by Paddy Chayefsky addressed this very issue.

The idea of news/entertainment/politics all being one incestuous mix is probably more like 40,000 years old. We know the Romans and Greeks were doing it. It almost certainly goes back all the way to the start of spoken language.

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01-10-2005 | 07:39 PM

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[QUOTE=ralper,Jan 10 2005, 07:32 PM] Me too.

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01-10-2005 | 10:21 PM

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Warren J. Dew

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Originally Posted by ralper,Jan 10 2005, 06:09 PM

This isn't a new issue nor is it something that has started to happen in recent years. In 1976 the movie "Network" written by Paddy Chayefsky addressed this very issue. That is the conflict between news as news and news as entertainment. Unfortunately, as Mr. Chayefsky so well predicted, news reports the story and is good for ethics and integrity, but entertainment pays the bills and turns the profit. Paying the bills and and turning a profit wins every time. That is the kind of environment that has been created, and that is who the networks, and many of the news reporting agencies are playing to. And this is true on both sides of center.

It used to be that there were at least a few sources that one could trust, though. As recently as 15 years ago, the New York Times' articles were objective news reporting, despite an exceptionally liberal editorial page. Now their articles read like their editorials used to.

Maybe things are starting to turn around, though. The Boston Globe's articles, which read like editorials ten years ago, are almost objective today.

I agree with those who feel that CBS News was more to blame than Michael Moore. CBS was supposed to be providing actual news - that's part of the reason they get to use public airwaves - while Moore was just out to make a buck (or a lot of them) on a sensasionalist docudrama (emphasis on the "drama" part). For those worried about his trying to influence an election, just remind yourself that the guy he was bashing won!

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