Bike crash
07-08-2012 | 03:59 AM
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From: bolton
Ray glad to hear your more or less OK.
If I remember the experience correctly
he stops, you don't, your wheel hits either the frame or gear cluster.
Since your center of mass is about 5 feet off of the ground all that linear velocity gets converted into rotational energy.
You're wearing clip-ins, which means the bike comes with you as you launch ass over teakettle.
you get about 220 degrees of rotation but unlike the olympic gymnasts you just can't stick the landing.
you lower back is actually the first thing that makes contact with the pavement.
you can tell because it's the biggest, deepest raspberry.
this is unless you tried to throw in the far more complicated half twist. this move is hardly worth it since the russian judge doesn't look for it anyways.
I'm guessing you did it anyways though which is probably how you got your ribs and hand involved as well.
probably rolling into the bike that came with you after the first bounce.
The good news is it's over before you have much time to realize how much this is going to hurt, but the thought does cross your mind.
As far as the bike itself now, pay close attention to the area frame right behind the fork tube especially the lower frame rail/downtube.
Also fork bearing race is probably split but you won't be able to tell until you pop it open.
It was many years ago but my new bike was only 8 days old when I did it.
good job on wearing the helmet.
Personally I don't know how they can ride in the peloton without some one going down every five minutes.
and a parting note about those hospital wheel chairs. if you're going fast and try breaking with just the inside brake they'll flip.
don't ask, just trust me.
and make sure they debride the scrapes and get all of the sand-gravel-rocks out.
If I remember the experience correctly
he stops, you don't, your wheel hits either the frame or gear cluster.Since your center of mass is about 5 feet off of the ground all that linear velocity gets converted into rotational energy.
You're wearing clip-ins, which means the bike comes with you as you launch ass over teakettle.
you get about 220 degrees of rotation but unlike the olympic gymnasts you just can't stick the landing.
you lower back is actually the first thing that makes contact with the pavement.
you can tell because it's the biggest, deepest raspberry.
this is unless you tried to throw in the far more complicated half twist. this move is hardly worth it since the russian judge doesn't look for it anyways.
I'm guessing you did it anyways though which is probably how you got your ribs and hand involved as well.
probably rolling into the bike that came with you after the first bounce.
The good news is it's over before you have much time to realize how much this is going to hurt, but the thought does cross your mind.
As far as the bike itself now, pay close attention to the area frame right behind the fork tube especially the lower frame rail/downtube.
Also fork bearing race is probably split but you won't be able to tell until you pop it open.
It was many years ago but my new bike was only 8 days old when I did it.
good job on wearing the helmet.
Personally I don't know how they can ride in the peloton without some one going down every five minutes.
and a parting note about those hospital wheel chairs. if you're going fast and try breaking with just the inside brake they'll flip.
don't ask, just trust me.
and make sure they debride the scrapes and get all of the sand-gravel-rocks out.
07-08-2012 | 07:58 AM
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From: West Deptford NJ
Wow Ray, so sorry to hear about the accident, but it seems you are on your back to that bike already. I agree with all the others here on the helmet. Like bolt, I do remember that last time I went down, clip-ins and all, but just some bruised ribs here.
Get better soon, and let's see you at Mid-Winter in Jan.
on the helmet. Like bolt, I do remember that last time I went down, clip-ins and all, but just some bruised ribs here.Get better soon, and let's see you at Mid-Winter in Jan.
07-08-2012 | 11:07 AM
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From: Lewes, DE
Originally Posted by S2KRAY' timestamp='1341710462' post='21841936
Crashed on my road bike on Friday. Guy I was pacelining behind hit his brakes and I hit his wheel then hit the road hard going 21MPH. Fractured pelvis, hand and ribs plus multiple road rash. Got out of hospital today with my new friend (walker) and start PT tomorrow. Helmet badly damaged but I did not sustain any head injuries. Bike looks ok but it is carbon fiber and I am getting it checked after I recover. Know how Tour DeFrance guys feel now.
Regarding your helmet damage: As some of you may know, I used to be the National Sales Manager for the Motorsports Division of Bell Helmets. On my way to Cars & Coffee this morning I passed several bicyclist on the bike path that runs along the highway that I was on, and I am always distressed to see that many people, especially women and children do not wear their helmets properly placed on their heads. In many cases people wear their helmets on the back of their heads exposing their foreheads and temple area. I have to point out that if one is in a bicycle accident how likely is it that one needs to protect the base of their skull as opposed to their forehead and temple area? Which area is more likely to impact the ground if one goes down or over the handlebars?
I take it that you were wearing your helmet properly? (Just above your eyebrows not on the crown of your head?)I have raced and rode recreationally for 40 years. 3 serious crashes that without a helmet worn properly I may not be responding to your question. I never ride without a helmet and I replace it anytime I crash as seriously as this as the inner shell is damaged and not worth wearing again. Thanks for your concern.
07-08-2012 | 11:15 AM
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Sorry to hear about your bike crash, Ray. You have a lot of company from this year's TdF. Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
I understand how you must feel right now...you're in great shape, accustomed to riding at a high level of performance, then BAM!!...you're out of commission. I've been there as well...taken out at 30+ mph during a sprint for the finish in a criterium when the rider in front of me skidded out on a tight curve. Result: broken collar bone, ribs, bruised hip, hairline fracture in the C-7 vertebrae, and 3 months in a Somi brace. The helmet saved my life.
No more racing or pacelines for me (unless I'm drafting someone I really trust, and absolutely no overlapping wheels). I loved the experiences from my years of racing, and the discipline of the training. Now I'm content to ride alone or with a friend.
However, all this ^^ pales in comparison to the bicycle-crash and survival experience of our Vintage Moderator, Jim (S1997).
Hang in there, Ray. You'll be rollin' again very soon.
- Jerry
I understand how you must feel right now...you're in great shape, accustomed to riding at a high level of performance, then BAM!!...you're out of commission. I've been there as well...taken out at 30+ mph during a sprint for the finish in a criterium when the rider in front of me skidded out on a tight curve. Result: broken collar bone, ribs, bruised hip, hairline fracture in the C-7 vertebrae, and 3 months in a Somi brace. The helmet saved my life.
No more racing or pacelines for me (unless I'm drafting someone I really trust, and absolutely no overlapping wheels). I loved the experiences from my years of racing, and the discipline of the training. Now I'm content to ride alone or with a friend.
However, all this ^^ pales in comparison to the bicycle-crash and survival experience of our Vintage Moderator, Jim (S1997).
Hang in there, Ray. You'll be rollin' again very soon.
- Jerry
07-08-2012 | 11:17 AM
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From: Lewes, DE
Ray glad to hear your more or less OK.
If I remember the experience correctly he stops, you don't, your wheel hits either the frame or gear cluster.
Since your center of mass is about 5 feet off of the ground all that linear velocity gets converted into rotational energy.
You're wearing clip-ins, which means the bike comes with you as you launch ass over teakettle.
you get about 220 degrees of rotation but unlike the olympic gymnasts you just can't stick the landing.
you lower back is actually the first thing that makes contact with the pavement.
you can tell because it's the biggest, deepest raspberry.
this is unless you tried to throw in the far more complicated half twist. this move is hardly worth it since the russian judge doesn't look for it anyways.
I'm guessing you did it anyways though which is probably how you got your ribs and hand involved as well.
probably rolling into the bike that came with you after the first bounce.
The good news is it's over before you have much time to realize how much this is going to hurt, but the thought does cross your mind.
As far as the bike itself now, pay close attention to the area frame right behind the fork tube especially the lower frame rail/downtube.
Also fork bearing race is probably split but you won't be able to tell until you pop it open.
It was many years ago but my new bike was only 8 days old when I did it.
good job on wearing the helmet.
Personally I don't know how they can ride in the peloton without some one going down every five minutes.
and a parting note about those hospital wheel chairs. if you're going fast and try breaking with just the inside brake they'll flip.
don't ask, just trust me.
and make sure they debride the scrapes and get all of the sand-gravel-rocks out.
If I remember the experience correctly
he stops, you don't, your wheel hits either the frame or gear cluster.Since your center of mass is about 5 feet off of the ground all that linear velocity gets converted into rotational energy.
You're wearing clip-ins, which means the bike comes with you as you launch ass over teakettle.
you get about 220 degrees of rotation but unlike the olympic gymnasts you just can't stick the landing.
you lower back is actually the first thing that makes contact with the pavement.
you can tell because it's the biggest, deepest raspberry.
this is unless you tried to throw in the far more complicated half twist. this move is hardly worth it since the russian judge doesn't look for it anyways.
I'm guessing you did it anyways though which is probably how you got your ribs and hand involved as well.
probably rolling into the bike that came with you after the first bounce.
The good news is it's over before you have much time to realize how much this is going to hurt, but the thought does cross your mind.
As far as the bike itself now, pay close attention to the area frame right behind the fork tube especially the lower frame rail/downtube.
Also fork bearing race is probably split but you won't be able to tell until you pop it open.
It was many years ago but my new bike was only 8 days old when I did it.
good job on wearing the helmet.
Personally I don't know how they can ride in the peloton without some one going down every five minutes.
and a parting note about those hospital wheel chairs. if you're going fast and try breaking with just the inside brake they'll flip.
don't ask, just trust me.
and make sure they debride the scrapes and get all of the sand-gravel-rocks out.
07-08-2012 | 11:25 AM
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From: Lewes, DE
Sorry to hear about your bike crash, Ray. You have a lot of company from this year's TdF. Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
I understand how you must feel right now...you're in great shape, accustomed to riding at a high level of performance, then BAM!!...you're out of commission. I've been there as well...taken out at 30+ mph during a sprint for the finish in a criterium when the rider in front of me skidded out on a tight curve. Result: broken collar bone, ribs, bruised hip, hairline fracture in the C-7 vertebrae, and 3 months in a Somi brace. The helmet saved my life.
No more racing or pacelines for me (unless I'm drafting someone I really trust, and absolutely no overlapping wheels). I loved the experiences from my years of racing, and the discipline of the training. Now I'm content to ride alone or with a friend.
However, all this ^^ pales in comparison to the bicycle-crash and survival experience of our Vintage Moderator, Jim (S1997).
Hang in there, Ray. You'll be rollin' again very soon.
- Jerry
I understand how you must feel right now...you're in great shape, accustomed to riding at a high level of performance, then BAM!!...you're out of commission. I've been there as well...taken out at 30+ mph during a sprint for the finish in a criterium when the rider in front of me skidded out on a tight curve. Result: broken collar bone, ribs, bruised hip, hairline fracture in the C-7 vertebrae, and 3 months in a Somi brace. The helmet saved my life.
No more racing or pacelines for me (unless I'm drafting someone I really trust, and absolutely no overlapping wheels). I loved the experiences from my years of racing, and the discipline of the training. Now I'm content to ride alone or with a friend.
However, all this ^^ pales in comparison to the bicycle-crash and survival experience of our Vintage Moderator, Jim (S1997).
Hang in there, Ray. You'll be rollin' again very soon.
- Jerry
