boltonblue

My wife got directions from a coworker who had lived in the area for a while.
She navigated from paper. Just some awesome rides.

zeroptzero

California legislators voted to ban gasoline powered cars, days later they ask citizens to avoid charging cars so not to tax the electrical grid which is near capacity.

Why are so many of today's politicians so backwards ? They vote with their hearts and not their minds, with no thought given to the process just the end goal.

Honda 367

^ So this is a case of you are damned if you do and you are damned if you don't. Hold on to your fossil fuel cars as long as you can with good maintenance.

zeroptzero

Yeah I am not against electric cars at all, they are part of the solution, but not all of the solution. Even our region with a pretty good electrical grid can't support full electric vehicles as good as the idea sounds. I hope hydrogen is viable in coming years.

The demand for fossil fuel cars will sky rocket in California just before the ban, I don't recall the exact date.

dlq04

California gots some work to do first. A study of charging stations in the Bay area this year found 22.7% of connectors were non-functioning due to problems including network connectivity issues, broken plugs, unresponsive screens, and payment system failures and around 5% of connectors had cables that were too short to reach an EV's charging port, rendering them unusable. I heard many of the same complaints from EV testers in Michigan, not to mention the long lines and delays. And, I believe many if not most charger stations run on natural gas; umm, what could happen to those prices if demand swells.

boltonblue

The timeline for electric cars new registrations is 2035. That's basically 12 years since this year is basically gone.
The power grid is not a charity. It is a for profit entity and without defined guaranteed demand they won't invest in upgrading.
By putting a line in the sand it tells the utilities, "ok boys time to belly up to the bar"

Scooterboy

Twelve years isn't a lot of time to upgrade the grid. You can bet the many of the EV drivers are also NIMBY when it comes time to run new HV power lines.

boltonblue

it's not 6 months either.
I'm sure Texas will be jumping right on this too.

zeroptzero

Oh wow, natural gas is the enemy of the same groups that want all electrical cars. I had not idea charging stations would operate on NG, that is a problem too. Good info Dave.

My used Civic and Subaru may be worth a lot of money in 2035 , lol .

zeroptzero

Texas never goes along with anything, are they mandated by Federal law on this vehicle issue or do states have leeway ? Their electrical supply system is pretty frail too.