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Old 05-08-2022, 06:05 AM
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Because I can never watch too many S2000 reviews on YouTube, especially when Throttle House does one...


They get it right. But I hope some 17 year old boy racer doesn't watch this, run out and buy an unmodified AP1, and think the limits are easily approachable with absolutely no threat of over-rotation.
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Originally Posted by tof
Time to teach him how to heel and toe.
To be perfectly honest I never perfected it in all of my years of driving. I don't trust myself doing it as I don't get enough braking force as I would like to have.

The Civic Si has auto-rev match downshift, just made for people like me , lol.
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Originally Posted by tof
Because I can never watch too many S2000 reviews on YouTube, especially when Throttle House does one...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rxch3aV1bI

They get it right. But I hope some 17 year old boy racer doesn't watch this, run out and buy an unmodified AP1, and think the limits are easily approachable with absolutely no threat of over-rotation.
I like many of their reviews, I'm surprised they haven't done an s2000 one in past years. Before I bought the 22 Civic Si I watched their review countless times and they persuaded me to look at the car.
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Originally Posted by tof
Because I can never watch too many S2000 reviews on YouTube, especially when Throttle House does one...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rxch3aV1bI

They get it right. But I hope some 17 year old boy racer doesn't watch this, run out and buy an unmodified AP1, and think the limits are easily approachable with absolutely no threat of over-rotation.
For those who may have forgotten . . . . from my notes:

On August 15, 2007 Honda announced the addition of a club racer-inspired S2000 CR to the S2000 lineup. The S2000 CR (CR for "Club Racer") features are designed to appeal to enthusiasts who enjoy open track day events and also provide a more ideal starting point for racers who modify the S2000 for competition in club racing events.According to Motor Trend, production of the 2008 S2000 CR will be limited to 1500 units, but those lucky enough to get one will join an exclusive club: The CR is available only in the U.S.

This factory-tuned sports racer is lighter, stiffer and faster than the stock S2000. The S2000 CR has a much more aggressive look thanks to the aerodynamic body kit that features a front spoiler that wraps around the corners of the vehicle, rocker-panel extensions, a large rear wing and faired-in headrests. The car's handling has been made sharper with the use of quicker-ratio steering, firmer springs and shocks, sticky Bridgestone Potenza RE070 tires and larger-width rear wheels. Extra body stiffness comes from additional bracing attached to the storage area for the folding cloth top, which has been removed. In its place, buyers get a removable aluminum hardtop. This change also results in weight savings of about 90 pounds. The changes to improve the S2000's track times do not come at the expense of creature comfort. The CR can be equipped with optional air conditioning and an AM/FM stereo with CD player. The sport seats are clad in cloth with unique yellow stitching, and the interior is accented with carbon-fiber-style trim panels and a special aluminum shifter.

S2000 CR Exclusive Features:

. Firmer, track-oriented suspension settings for springs, dampers and stabilizer bars.

. Front coil springs 37% stiffer and rears 17% over 2008 standard model.

. Front damping force increased 50% and rears 32% over 2008 standard model.

. Front stabilizer bar (mm): was 26.5 x t4.5 in 2007 to 27.2 x t5.3 in 2008 and to 28.6 x t4.5 in S2000CR (+1.4 x -0.8).

. Rear stabilizer bar (mm): Rear: 25.4 x t4.5 in 2007, no change 2008 except for S2000CR to 26.5 x t4.5 (+1.1 x 0.0).

. Structural enhancements include rear body brace and steering gearbox brace

. Quicker steering ratio of 13.8:1 (compared to 14.9:1)

. More aggressive tires using ultra-high performance Bridgestone Potenza RE070 tires in place of RE050 tires; 215/45R17 front and 255/40R17 rear (a larger rear tire size by 10mm)

. Aerodynamic body kit for reduced coefficient of lift (Cl) and improved balance and reduce lift through large and specially-tuned front and rear spoilers. Lift is reduced by 70-80% depending on the roof configuration.

. Removable aluminum hardtop

. Sport muffler for a tuned exhaust note

. High-grip fabric seating surfaces with synthetic suede trim; black fabric seating surfaces with yellow stitching. Synthetic suede bolsters enhance lateral grip.

. Unique spherical aluminum shift knob rests 12.6 mm lower for a 6 percent reduction in shift stroke compared to the regular S2000 cylindrical shift knob (aluminum/leather wrapped). Additionally, shift load effort increases by 10 percent for even more direct feedback when engaging a gear.

. The S2000 CR instrument panel meters include a "peak-power indicator." When the engine is operating at peak power, a round, green light illuminates to the right of the digital speedometer.

. Omitted items for weight reduction: convertible soft top, audio system (optional factory install), air conditioning (optional factory install), spare tire and jack, and sound insulation. Relative to the base 2008 S2000, cumulative weight savings total 51 pounds (hardtop installed) and 99 pounds (hardtop removed).

. new wheel design in Kaiser Silver

. rear body brace has been added to the area previously occupied by the soft top, resulting in additional rigidity.

. Carbon fiber-style trim interior panels.



S2000 CR Weight Savings Summary

Eliminated components to save -51 pounds:

* Electrically-powered convertible soft top

* Sound insulation

* Spare tire and jack (have small tire repair kit instead)



Optional eliminated components to save -42 pounds:

* Air conditioning

* Audio system

User-Configurable components to save -48 pounds:

* Removable aluminum hardtop

Exclusive S2000CR components that added + 42 pounds:

* Front and rear spoiler

* Rear body brace

* Steering box brace

* Roll bar cowlings and hardtop mounting covers

* Heavier suspension components

* Increased rear tire size

* Tire repair kit


No changes were made with the 2009 model.

I smiled when they said "drive it across the country" . . . without a pop top, hummm.
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Thanks for posting Dave I never knew much about the CR.
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A couple from Mobile (I think) used to come over to autocross a matching pair of black CRs. Hers was a little quicker. . But they always seemed to take BTOD on our relatively technical layouts, vs some heavy hitters including others in their AS class and some big iron in SS class.
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Originally Posted by tof
A couple from Mobile (I think) used to come over to autocross a matching pair of black CRs. Hers was a little quicker. . But they always seemed to take BTOD on our relatively technical layouts, vs some heavy hitters including others in their AS class and some big iron in SS class.
BTOD
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Best Time Of Day BTOD autocrossing my friend.
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I was out in the S last night and gotta say the headlights on the S are really great. For mine it's 19 year old technology but they seem to work even better than the headlights on my WRX. Just a random observation.
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