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#3031
BAT 2003 NSX
Thank's go to tof for telling me about this. It makes me glad I've got mine with Hagerty insurance.
Original-Owner, 3,400-Mile 2003 Acura NSX-T 6-Speed
Thank's go to tof for telling me about this. It makes me glad I've got mine with Hagerty insurance.
WOW!!!
Sold for $287,000on 8/11/24
#3032
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Some sweet cars listed. I see a stupid low mileage 2023 Porsche 911 Sport Classic is bid $325k. What would it have sold for new? It only has 60 miles, so someone bought and parked it and waits a year.
Many of those cars were only a couple years old with little mileage. Not car people, just profit seeking flippers.
Many of those cars were only a couple years old with little mileage. Not car people, just profit seeking flippers.
Hate that.
#3033
Thread Starter
That's a little out of my price range.
#3034
First it was cars and bids and now sotheby's https://sothebysmotorsport.com/ are trying to horn in on Bringatriler's business model.
I have noticed several improvements to BaT since Cars and Bids launched. BaT has added a delivery estimator, a verified checkout option, and an expanded geographical footprint for photography and detailing services. Meanwhile Cars and Bids began offering free listings in an effort to win business away from BaT and get some traction in the on line auction space. The fact that C&B set their buyers' fee at 4.5, half a point lower than the 5% BaT suggests that they were looking at what the competition was doing.
Last edited by tof; 08-12-2024 at 08:09 AM.
#3035
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I posted this in the suspension section but I am not sure if all of you check it out frequently. I will throw this in here to see what you guys say.
I have a 2009. Always garaged. I have 85K miles with no obvious failure of the shocks. No leakage, no bounce. Street car. I am always looking ahead to snag parts now that I might need in the future. Shocks turned out to be readily available until recently. Couldah, shouldah, wouldah.
The OEM left rear shock is unavailable but the other 3 corners are available. I notice the shocks for 2007 are available in the rear. What would happen if I put new 2007 shocks on the rear with new 2008/9 shocks on the front?
The difference between the 2007 and 2008/9 (non CR) are stiffer springs but the damper is 5% stiffer for 2008. Not sure I will notice the 5% difference especially with no change to the fronts.
What say you, this august forum of experienced drivers?
I have a 2009. Always garaged. I have 85K miles with no obvious failure of the shocks. No leakage, no bounce. Street car. I am always looking ahead to snag parts now that I might need in the future. Shocks turned out to be readily available until recently. Couldah, shouldah, wouldah.
The OEM left rear shock is unavailable but the other 3 corners are available. I notice the shocks for 2007 are available in the rear. What would happen if I put new 2007 shocks on the rear with new 2008/9 shocks on the front?
The difference between the 2007 and 2008/9 (non CR) are stiffer springs but the damper is 5% stiffer for 2008. Not sure I will notice the 5% difference especially with no change to the fronts.
What say you, this august forum of experienced drivers?
Last edited by cosmomiller; 08-12-2024 at 04:14 PM.
#3036
Thread Starter
You want to bounce that off this group ...
#3037
Softer shocks in the rear would decrease rear grip, at least on corner entry and somewhat mid corner depending in road surface and on how much and how often the driver adjusts the steering angle. if my limited understanding is correct. This would increase initial and mid corner oversteer. Again, assuming my limited understanding is correct.
I don't know how much that 5% difference will actually matter. Would it be noticeable during spirited driving? What about autocross or track days? Hopefully there are other smarter people who can fill in the gaps.
I don't know how much that 5% difference will actually matter. Would it be noticeable during spirited driving? What about autocross or track days? Hopefully there are other smarter people who can fill in the gaps.
Last edited by tof; 08-13-2024 at 07:02 PM.
#3038
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Softer springs in the rear would decrease rear grip, at least on corner entry and somewhat mid corner depending in road surface and on how much and how often the driver adjusts the steering angle. if my limited understanding is correct. This would increase initial and mid corner oversteer. Again, assuming my limited understanding is correct.
I don't know how much that 5% difference will actually matter. Would it be noticeable during spirited driving? What about autocross or track days? Hopefully there are other smarter people who can fill in the gaps.
I don't know how much that 5% difference will actually matter. Would it be noticeable during spirited driving? What about autocross or track days? Hopefully there are other smarter people who can fill in the gaps.
#3039
I do hope someone with more experience in setting up suspensions and maybe a stronger theoretical understanding of the topic will chime in. It may well be that 5% won't matter, but I do know this: Adding oversteer to an already tail happy S2000 is not a good idea unless you are like Ayrton Senna and want an unstable setup for reasons. At least we are not talking about an AP1 or an especially lively 2000 or 2001. As I understand it, the AP2s are a little more forgiving.
Last edited by tof; 08-13-2024 at 07:12 PM.
#3040
Yeah. I had a brain fart. I meant softer dampers. (corrected)
Adding oversteer to an already tail happy S2000 is not a good idea unless you are like Ayrton Senna and want an unstable setup for reasons. At least we are not talking about an AP1 or an especially lively 2000 or 2001. As I understand it, the AP2s are a little more forgiving.
Adding oversteer to an already tail happy S2000 is not a good idea unless you are like Ayrton Senna and want an unstable setup for reasons. At least we are not talking about an AP1 or an especially lively 2000 or 2001. As I understand it, the AP2s are a little more forgiving.