All Things Automotive
03-09-2024, 10:17 AM
#2491
Sorry if this is a duplicate post....I thought I had posted, but...
A friend of mine has a 2019 HRV. Steering was weird, seemed to get stuck...Brought the car into a dealer. She has 43K on this car. They told her she needed tie rod ends, a steering box, an axle (or parts of one?) . That's pretty low mileage to need all of this, don't you think?
She took it to our trusted mechanic. The tie rod ends were so bad they suggested she not drive it, and they got the replacement parts to repair it the next day. At first glace they didn't think she needed the steering box, but she does. They saw no issue with axles. She bought the vehicle used with 20K on it. Had a warranty that expired six months ago (of course). Honda dealership was making no effort to help out with this repair, which is darn costly and should not be needed on a car with such low mileage. Our mechanic told her they had never seen anything like it.
A friend of mine has a 2019 HRV. Steering was weird, seemed to get stuck...Brought the car into a dealer. She has 43K on this car. They told her she needed tie rod ends, a steering box, an axle (or parts of one?) . That's pretty low mileage to need all of this, don't you think?
She took it to our trusted mechanic. The tie rod ends were so bad they suggested she not drive it, and they got the replacement parts to repair it the next day. At first glace they didn't think she needed the steering box, but she does. They saw no issue with axles. She bought the vehicle used with 20K on it. Had a warranty that expired six months ago (of course). Honda dealership was making no effort to help out with this repair, which is darn costly and should not be needed on a car with such low mileage. Our mechanic told her they had never seen anything like it.
I had my WRX in for an oil change and they told me I should replace a ball joint. I told them I wanted to see so with the car on the lift I could see there was a bit of play but it wasn’t to the point of being dangerous to drive.
03-09-2024, 10:26 AM
#2492
That's true, but given their reliability and high resale value, total cost of ownership is pretty competitive. So, lease a BMW or an Audi but buy a Lexus if you intend to keep it for more than 3 years or if you rack up the mileage.
03-09-2024, 10:32 AM
#2493
I won't pay Lexus prices. I like to save the extra $ to put towards fun cars.
03-09-2024, 01:14 PM
#2494
Vito is still driving his 2007 Lexus…so I’d say he has gotten his money’s worth from it. I think he would consider another one, but we hate the grill on the front. Can’t live with that. It is really fugly. So not sure what he will buy to replace it.
03-09-2024, 01:38 PM
#2495
I wonder how the new prices compare between his 2007 and a "similar" one from 2024.
03-10-2024, 06:51 AM
#2496
Lainey, I don't think I know your friend, if I sound abrasive, I'll apologize in advance.
I'll throw a speculation out there.
I don't know if she may not be "a car guy" type. If she had a bent wheel, a badly out of balance tire or a severely unaligned front end it could have been vibrating really badly for a long time.
and that will kill a front end. Not being a car guy type, i.e. in tune with what the car is telling them, they don't recognize "hey this isn't right" for a long time.
I'll throw a speculation out there.
I don't know if she may not be "a car guy" type. If she had a bent wheel, a badly out of balance tire or a severely unaligned front end it could have been vibrating really badly for a long time.
and that will kill a front end. Not being a car guy type, i.e. in tune with what the car is telling them, they don't recognize "hey this isn't right" for a long time.
03-10-2024, 06:59 AM
#2497
Lainey, I don't think I know your friend, if I sound abrasive, I'll apologize in advance.
I'll throw a speculation out there.
I don't know if she may not be "a car guy" type. If she had a bent wheel, a badly out of balance tire or a severely unaligned front end it could have been vibrating really badly for a long time.
and that will kill a front end. Not being a car guy type, i.e. in tune with what the car is telling them, they don't recognize "hey this isn't right" for a long time.
I'll throw a speculation out there.
I don't know if she may not be "a car guy" type. If she had a bent wheel, a badly out of balance tire or a severely unaligned front end it could have been vibrating really badly for a long time.
and that will kill a front end. Not being a car guy type, i.e. in tune with what the car is telling them, they don't recognize "hey this isn't right" for a long time.
03-10-2024, 08:37 AM
#2498
Sorry if this is a duplicate post....I thought I had posted, but...
A friend of mine has a 2019 HRV. Steering was weird, seemed to get stuck...Brought the car into a dealer. She has 43K on this car. They told her she needed tie rod ends, a steering box, an axle (or parts of one?) . That's pretty low mileage to need all of this, don't you think?
She took it to our trusted mechanic. The tie rod ends were so bad they suggested she not drive it, and they got the replacement parts to repair it the next day. At first glace they didn't think she needed the steering box, but she does. They saw no issue with axles. She bought the vehicle used with 20K on it. Had a warranty that expired six months ago (of course). Honda dealership was making no effort to help out with this repair, which is darn costly and should not be needed on a car with such low mileage. Our mechanic told her they had never seen anything like it.
Apparently, there have been some issues with steering racks on some later model civics, and a class action is brewing. I suggested she hang on to her receipts. At the very least, perhaps an email to American Honda about the repairs that were needed. Honda IS supposed to be one of the most reliable cars out there, right?
Sticky Steering
A friend of mine has a 2019 HRV. Steering was weird, seemed to get stuck...Brought the car into a dealer. She has 43K on this car. They told her she needed tie rod ends, a steering box, an axle (or parts of one?) . That's pretty low mileage to need all of this, don't you think?
She took it to our trusted mechanic. The tie rod ends were so bad they suggested she not drive it, and they got the replacement parts to repair it the next day. At first glace they didn't think she needed the steering box, but she does. They saw no issue with axles. She bought the vehicle used with 20K on it. Had a warranty that expired six months ago (of course). Honda dealership was making no effort to help out with this repair, which is darn costly and should not be needed on a car with such low mileage. Our mechanic told her they had never seen anything like it.
Apparently, there have been some issues with steering racks on some later model civics, and a class action is brewing. I suggested she hang on to her receipts. At the very least, perhaps an email to American Honda about the repairs that were needed. Honda IS supposed to be one of the most reliable cars out there, right?
Sticky Steering
I had an issue with my 2016 Civic after I slid into a curb during winter driving. I didn't hit the curb very hard but it was just enough to bend the internal parts of the steering rack, and it become "sticky" after I hit the curb. That was mostly my fault but a Honda mechanic friend at the time said that Honda steering racks are not very strong internally, and a small impact can be enough to bend them and then they don't operate smoothly any further.
03-10-2024, 10:17 AM
#2499
^
Thanks. Do you know if the Civic share the same components/parts as the HRV, which is built on the fit chassis as far as I know.
Thanks. Do you know if the Civic share the same components/parts as the HRV, which is built on the fit chassis as far as I know.
03-10-2024, 04:17 PM
#2500
I supposed that is somewhat possible. She had been bringing the car to the dealer for oil changes....not sure if they would have/should have noticed something amiss with a cursory look. Knowing other models of Hondas have had this sticky steering issue does lend to some suspicion......
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