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What gear down shift at 59mph?

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Old 02-02-2004, 10:32 AM
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The highest speed I have ever down shifted to 2nd gear in my S is 45mph. great coz it puts me right at 6000rpm the beginning of Vtec.

I never tried down shifting to 2nd at higher speed. The S's Second gear maxes out around 65-67mph.

At around 59 mph in 2nd gear engine RPM is roughly 7700RPM . only 1200 left in the vtec. but more torque and horsepower.

At around 59 mph in 3rd gear engine RPM is roughly 5600-5700 RPM. Out of VTEC range. but no time lost with an extra 2nd-3rd shift.

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I would have it in 3rd, I think you would lose more time shifting (this also depends on what gear your already in) then the added benefit of vtec for .3 seconds
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Thats the worst spot possible, at least for me. Right udner vtec, where my car seems to dip in power before the transition and the big shove (blower). I havent adjusted the vtec engagement yet.

Id go with third. You'd have to shift almost immediately out of second if you went that low.

I ran an evo a while ago, and we went at it a few times. I was experimenting with launching the car at a slow roll. I found that downshifting to first at 35-ish was NOT the way to go.....he left it in second, and pulled steadily away while my car pitched violently forward for 0.003 seconds before I had to shift. Starting in second produced better results....he still jumped out, but I could reel him in quicker.
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Originally posted by Pakisho
I found that downshifting to first at 35-ish was NOT the way to go.....

I Never actually downshifted to 1st. I only down shift to first below 10mph!!!
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by BlitzSRM
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Well, the car and transmission was warmed completely, and naturally I matched revs. It went in with no problem at all.
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I see...

I guess, when i was learning some one told me never to shift to first unless you are at a full stop...2nd is good if you are moving a little. They said it was bad for the car.

But that was a long time ago with a different car. I never followed that rule completely now i would shift when im going really slow.

So does this mean the autocross guys shift to 1st gear all the time out of a slow corner?
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you can shift to 1st very smooothly if you do double clutching.
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Originally posted by BlitzSRM

So does this mean the autocross guys shift to 1st gear all the time out of a slow corner?
i've downshifted into first a few times going into slower corners. If you watch Jason Sanis vid from nats he does going into one of the slower corners. The vid can be found here http://www.gofastvideo.com/autocross

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I downshift to second at 65+ at turn 5 at Laguna Seca. It seamed to help with the pull up the hill. I'm not sure it was overall faster, but it was more fun than staying in third.


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