VSA question
04-09-2007, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by vishnus11,Apr 9 2007, 02:24 PM
You must be one of those special humans with 6 legs, where you can control the braking and throttle at each wheel individually 
Sorry to say it, but VSA WILL outperform the human brain when it comes to driving in certain conditions. Of course there is no subsitute for astute judgment.
Sorry to say it, but VSA WILL outperform the human brain when it comes to driving in certain conditions. Of course there is no subsitute for astute judgment.
04-10-2007, 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by vishnus11,Apr 9 2007, 04:57 AM
How so?
I wasn't aware that the car even had to be turned on when using an on car lathe. I have yet to resurface the rotors on my S since its an 06, but if I remember correctly, when doing the rotors on my previous cars, we'd just put it up on the lift with the tranny in neutral, attach the lathe, and let it do its thing. Any reason as to why the car should be turned on in the first place?
I wasn't aware that the car even had to be turned on when using an on car lathe. I have yet to resurface the rotors on my S since its an 06, but if I remember correctly, when doing the rotors on my previous cars, we'd just put it up on the lift with the tranny in neutral, attach the lathe, and let it do its thing. Any reason as to why the car should be turned on in the first place?
The lathe uses a separate power drive that not normally used for non-drive wheels.
Resurfacing on car ensures the rotor face is resurfaced parallel with the hub.
04-10-2007, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Slows2k,Apr 10 2007, 04:13 AM
On a FWD Honda you resurface the front rotors in gear, using the engine to drive the rotors. On a S2k you use a separate power drive for the front rotors, and 2nd gear to cut the rear.
The lathe uses a separate power drive that not normally used for non-drive wheels.
Resurfacing on car ensures the rotor face is resurfaced parallel with the hub.
The lathe uses a separate power drive that not normally used for non-drive wheels.
Resurfacing on car ensures the rotor face is resurfaced parallel with the hub.
04-10-2007, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Slows2k,Apr 10 2007, 04:13 AM
On a FWD Honda you resurface the front rotors in gear, using the engine to drive the rotors. On a S2k you use a separate power drive for the front rotors, and 2nd gear to cut the rear.
The lathe uses a separate power drive that not normally used for non-drive wheels.
Resurfacing on car ensures the rotor face is resurfaced parallel with the hub.
The lathe uses a separate power drive that not normally used for non-drive wheels.
Resurfacing on car ensures the rotor face is resurfaced parallel with the hub.
04-10-2007, 11:42 PM
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vishnus11 Posted on Apr 10 2007, 03:41 PM
Reason = Torsen LSD.
Rotating just one rear wheel for a certain time (a minute?) may damage your Torsen LSD.
While driving the Torsen works on the rev difference between left & right wheel.
With an on car lath you're introducing a LOT of rev difference for a time that will never occur driving.
About the same as driving with 2 different rear tires (different size, different wear, ect).
Thats also why one has to put the front wheel on the rear and the spare on the front in case of a flat rear. (check your manual for that
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Any reason why you would NEED to use the car to power the drive wheels when using an on car lathe?
Rotating just one rear wheel for a certain time (a minute?) may damage your Torsen LSD.
While driving the Torsen works on the rev difference between left & right wheel.
With an on car lath you're introducing a LOT of rev difference for a time that will never occur driving.
About the same as driving with 2 different rear tires (different size, different wear, ect).
Thats also why one has to put the front wheel on the rear and the spare on the front in case of a flat rear. (check your manual for that
)
04-13-2007, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SpitfireS,Apr 10 2007, 11:42 PM
vishnus11 Posted on Apr 10 2007, 03:41 PM
Reason = Torsen LSD.
Rotating just one rear wheel for a certain time (a minute?) may damage your Torsen LSD.
While driving the Torsen works on the rev difference between left & right wheel.
With an on car lath you're introducing a LOT of rev difference for a time that will never occur driving.
About the same as driving with 2 different rear tires (different size, different wear, ect).
Thats also why one has to put the front wheel on the rear and the spare on the front in case of a flat rear. (check your manual for that )
Reason = Torsen LSD.
Rotating just one rear wheel for a certain time (a minute?) may damage your Torsen LSD.
While driving the Torsen works on the rev difference between left & right wheel.
With an on car lath you're introducing a LOT of rev difference for a time that will never occur driving.
About the same as driving with 2 different rear tires (different size, different wear, ect).
Thats also why one has to put the front wheel on the rear and the spare on the front in case of a flat rear. (check your manual for that
)
04-14-2007, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by vishnus11,Apr 8 2007, 02:40 PM
You must manually disable VSA everytime you start the car if you wish to operate the vehicle without the stability control present (please don't do this on public roads) 
i've been driving without VSA for several years...should i stop driving on public roads?
04-14-2007, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by vishnus11,Apr 10 2007, 08:41 AM
Ahh, in my case, we use a powerdrive for both axles - i.e. in the case of the S2000, I would hook the drive upto the hub, leave the tranny in neutral, and machine the rotors. Any reason why you would NEED to use the car to power the drive wheels when using an on car lathe?
04-14-2007, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by R3DS2K,Apr 10 2007, 09:25 PM
um i have a 94 honda accord and i had the front rotors cut without the car being on.. no need to use the cars powertrain to turn the rotors if the on car lathe is self powered.. unless the lathe you have is suppose to be done that way but i never seen it cuz most on car lathes i seen cut it with its own power
04-14-2007, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jyeung528,Apr 14 2007, 01:14 PM
why not??? what about the s2k's that don't have VSA?
i've been driving without VSA for several years...should i stop driving on public roads?
i've been driving without VSA for several years...should i stop driving on public roads?