VErsion 2 Toda cams
#481
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Originally Posted by mxt_77,Oct 31 2004, 08:17 PM
Funny... I didn't hear you saying that when you were trying to sale a set of these cams.
No offense, but have you said anything useful in this thread?
You claim that you lost power with the Toda cams, but you won't back it up with dyno charts (because you used them to wipe your ass.. that's a mature excuse).
You claim that you first lost power when you installed the Toda cams, and then you claim that the second time that you installed them you broke even... but you don't tell us what you changed or did differently.
At one point in the thread, you claim that Toda provided "different installation instructions", yet you never back that up by actually providing the information that Toda gave to you. Why won't you share? Were you just making that up?
Sounds like a load of to me.
No offense, but have you said anything useful in this thread?
You claim that you lost power with the Toda cams, but you won't back it up with dyno charts (because you used them to wipe your ass.. that's a mature excuse).
You claim that you first lost power when you installed the Toda cams, and then you claim that the second time that you installed them you broke even... but you don't tell us what you changed or did differently.
At one point in the thread, you claim that Toda provided "different installation instructions", yet you never back that up by actually providing the information that Toda gave to you. Why won't you share? Were you just making that up?
Sounds like a load of to me.
If what I say sounds like a load of BS then just put me on your ignore list......
now stop denying to yourself you made a bad investment and move on.....
For me this thread sucks just like the cams do.... Did you relieve this thread for a specific reason or are you light a fat b@#%h that likes to yap about nothing?????
Beroz
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Originally Posted by beroznikmal,Nov 1 2004, 09:12 AM
wow... I am offended cause you have personally insulted me... <snip>
I'm not denying that I may have made a bad investment. It's a risk one takes when buying a go-fast part that no one seems to have any facts on. However, I do know that the first set of cams that I had did make power. I'm simply trying to get to the bottom of why the second set does not. By nature, I like to troubleshoot things if I believe they are not working as they should (that's what I do for a living). So, that's why I continue to pursue these cams. I could do like you (and many others) have done, and just scrap them or try to sell them or give up... but I choose not to (at least not yet).
The reason that I revived this thread is because I just recently found that the cams are not making the power that they should be. I'm trying to get additional information and hopefully insight as to the possible cause for this.
I simply don't need someone coming in here and claiming "Toda cams suck", without providing any additional information. It's just not useful. If you want to be helpful, you could've backed up your claims with some factual information.
If you're personally offended, I apologize. I was simply trying to point out that you have not offered any useful information in this thread. If you have something useful to offer, I would really like to hear it and see the factual basis for it. It sounds like you have a lot of additional information to offer... but for whatever reason, you're not sharing with the rest of the world. If you want to share, I would appreciate it. Otherwise, I could live without your color commentary.
#483
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Originally Posted by Turtle,Nov 1 2004, 04:40 AM
They found one interesting thing that had been missed. The failed cam was about 5 thousandths of an inch out of true.
I'm interested to hear more about this. When you say that the failed cam was 5 thou out of true, what does that mean? Does that mean that the lobes are out of alignment (i.e., it would be slightly advanced/retarded), or does that meant that the camshaft is warped and not perfectly straight? If it's just warped, I don't know if that would have much impact on its performance, simply because the journals would probably "straighten it back out" once they were torqued down.
As this is with regard to the original (Parkerized version) cam, I don't think that it would help my current plight much, but I'm curious to hear more about it.
#484
Warped as in out of true - not the lobes. I'm not convinced the ladder would straighten the cam when torqued. Whether it's significant or not, who knows. Just figured it was worth mentioning as a peice of info for the people genuinely interested in the cams.
As to your current problem... how much info from the stock ECU have you logged during the dyno runs? I wonder if it's not the stock ECU being confused. (Not 100% sure you're still running the stock ECU - only going off memory). I don't think anyone in the UK has run the A2's with the stock ECU - and I can't remember any reports of a performance loss. Migth be related, might be just the handful of people with them aren't aware of the exact performance change.
-Brian.
As to your current problem... how much info from the stock ECU have you logged during the dyno runs? I wonder if it's not the stock ECU being confused. (Not 100% sure you're still running the stock ECU - only going off memory). I don't think anyone in the UK has run the A2's with the stock ECU - and I can't remember any reports of a performance loss. Migth be related, might be just the handful of people with them aren't aware of the exact performance change.
-Brian.
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