used 2002 f20c aprox 200 miles
05-19-2010, 09:16 AM
#11
ZDDP, Zinc Dialkyl-Dithio-Phosphate, is one of a few anti-wear additives found in modern factory fills and replacement oils. Others you'll see are Moly TDC, Antimony TDC, Organic Sulfur-Phosphorus-Nitrogen compounds, etc. ZDDP use has been on the decline for several years now due to it's effect on catalyic converters.
If you don't want to bother with an additive package and would like to get something off the shelf, I would look for a racing oil, e.g. Valvoline VR1. Typically, and in the case of VR1, racing oils are loaded with Zinc and Moly due to the extreme track enviroments.
When someone says DINO they are referring to mineral oils (non-synthetics). The term 'synthetic oil' is a bit of a misnomer in the US, as oils that reach our shelves labled 'Synthetic' are not infact purely synthetic.
If you don't want to bother with an additive package and would like to get something off the shelf, I would look for a racing oil, e.g. Valvoline VR1. Typically, and in the case of VR1, racing oils are loaded with Zinc and Moly due to the extreme track enviroments.
When someone says DINO they are referring to mineral oils (non-synthetics). The term 'synthetic oil' is a bit of a misnomer in the US, as oils that reach our shelves labled 'Synthetic' are not infact purely synthetic.
05-19-2010, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by CarbonCrew,May 19 2010, 09:16 AM
ZDDP, Zinc Dialkyl-Dithio-Phosphate, is one of a few anti-wear additives found in modern factory fills and replacement oils. Others you'll see are Moly TDC, Antimony TDC, Organic Sulfur-Phosphorus-Nitrogen compounds, etc. ZDDP use has been on the decline for several years now due to it's effect on catalyic converters.
If you don't want to bother with an additive package and would like to get something off the shelf, I would look for a racing oil, e.g. Valvoline VR1. Typically, and in the case of VR1, racing oils are loaded with Zinc and Moly due to the extreme track enviroments.
When someone says DINO they are referring to mineral oils (non-synthetics). The term 'synthetic oil' is a bit of a misnomer in the US, as oils that reach our shelves labled 'Synthetic' are not infact purely synthetic.
If you don't want to bother with an additive package and would like to get something off the shelf, I would look for a racing oil, e.g. Valvoline VR1. Typically, and in the case of VR1, racing oils are loaded with Zinc and Moly due to the extreme track enviroments.
When someone says DINO they are referring to mineral oils (non-synthetics). The term 'synthetic oil' is a bit of a misnomer in the US, as oils that reach our shelves labled 'Synthetic' are not infact purely synthetic.
05-19-2010, 10:41 AM
#13
Originally Posted by SpitfireS,May 19 2010, 09:06 AM
There is no special break-in oil.
The elevated levels of moly found in "first oil change" UOA's is just assembly lube.
IMO a cheap dino 10W-30 or 5W-30 for at least 5k miles is all you need.
You need the rings & FRM cylinder walls and the valve train to "wear".
ZDDP is an anti wear additive, mainly used to prevent wear on flat tappet lifters.
#1 - "we" don't have flat tappet lifters.
#2 - you want to break-in (= wear)
Dino oil is mineral, non synthetic oil.
The elevated levels of moly found in "first oil change" UOA's is just assembly lube.
IMO a cheap dino 10W-30 or 5W-30 for at least 5k miles is all you need.
You need the rings & FRM cylinder walls and the valve train to "wear".
ZDDP is an anti wear additive, mainly used to prevent wear on flat tappet lifters.
#1 - "we" don't have flat tappet lifters.
#2 - you want to break-in (= wear)
Dino oil is mineral, non synthetic oil.
05-19-2010, 10:44 AM
#15
Originally Posted by CarbonCrew,May 19 2010, 09:16 AM
ZDDP, Zinc Dialkyl-Dithio-Phosphate, is one of a few anti-wear additives found in modern factory fills and replacement oils. Others you'll see are Moly TDC, Antimony TDC, Organic Sulfur-Phosphorus-Nitrogen compounds, etc. ZDDP use has been on the decline for several years now due to it's effect on catalyic converters.
If you don't want to bother with an additive package and would like to get something off the shelf, I would look for a racing oil, e.g. Valvoline VR1. Typically, and in the case of VR1, racing oils are loaded with Zinc and Moly due to the extreme track enviroments.
When someone says DINO they are referring to mineral oils (non-synthetics). The term 'synthetic oil' is a bit of a misnomer in the US, as oils that reach our shelves labled 'Synthetic' are not infact purely synthetic.
If you don't want to bother with an additive package and would like to get something off the shelf, I would look for a racing oil, e.g. Valvoline VR1. Typically, and in the case of VR1, racing oils are loaded with Zinc and Moly due to the extreme track enviroments.
When someone says DINO they are referring to mineral oils (non-synthetics). The term 'synthetic oil' is a bit of a misnomer in the US, as oils that reach our shelves labled 'Synthetic' are not infact purely synthetic.
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