UPDATE! 2002 AP1 tranny fail? HELP!
#21
Originally Posted by CoolGuy094' timestamp='1418247094' post='23433192
Woah... WTF happened to that slave rod ball end?
How did the release fork feel when you had the slave cylinder off? Did it still pivot OK? Could you pull it out of its mount and snap it back in OK?
Does the black rubber boot that covers the entire rod ball end and release fork look OK, any damage to it?
How did the release fork feel when you had the slave cylinder off? Did it still pivot OK? Could you pull it out of its mount and snap it back in OK?
Does the black rubber boot that covers the entire rod ball end and release fork look OK, any damage to it?
Either that or at some point pressure was lost so much that it popped out and was on the edge of the tranny case and someone kept pushing the clutch pedal?
#22
Check out this link, shows the parts to the clutch release: http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...CLUTCH+RELEASE
The fork (4) is clipped into the hanger/spring assembly (5/6). You should be able to pull on the end of the fork that sticks out of the trans case and it will un-clip from the hanger. Then push it back towards the trans case and it should click back into place in the hanger. When clipped in place on the hanger, it should have a small amount of pivot freedom back and forth, but not much movement otherwise. These checks should prove that the hanger and clip assembly is undamaged.
The fork's purpose is to pivot back and forth on the hanger assembly and cause the release bearing (3) to move back and forth on the release bearing guide (1). This is what releases the clutch when you push in the pedal. If the release bearing and/or guide is damaged it will affect your ability to shift. Problem is you can't see s**t through the tiny opening that the release fork goes through.
SOMETHING caused the damage to the slave rod ball. You saying there is damage to the boot (7) indicates something from the outside, like road debris, could have smacked the boot and caused the slave rod to jump out of the fork cup like bgoetz was speculating. The slave being dry of grease isn't too surprising, the older the car is the more grease will have dried up. And that will affect pedal feel and performance, but it wouldn't cause that gash.
Only other thing I can think of is that something from INSIDE the trans case caused the damage... like one of the spring fingers from the pressure plate broke off, caused initial havoc, then exited via the little window that the fork goes through and caused damage to the slave rod and boot. Or maybe your car has the Exedy clutch disc on it and one of the metal tabs that holds the springs in broke off like it has in so many other cases.
Honestly, if you can do intake/exhaust/master/slave installs, you reasonably could do the transmission. You need basic tools that you'd use for those other installs, four jack stands, and the ability to take your time (i.e. no need to drive the car for a few days). I was nervous when I did my first clutch swap as well, but you learn as you go, take it one step at a time, organize and label everything you take off, don't rush anything, and it will go OK. Its nice to have a friend around to help you out and learn with you too.
The fork (4) is clipped into the hanger/spring assembly (5/6). You should be able to pull on the end of the fork that sticks out of the trans case and it will un-clip from the hanger. Then push it back towards the trans case and it should click back into place in the hanger. When clipped in place on the hanger, it should have a small amount of pivot freedom back and forth, but not much movement otherwise. These checks should prove that the hanger and clip assembly is undamaged.
The fork's purpose is to pivot back and forth on the hanger assembly and cause the release bearing (3) to move back and forth on the release bearing guide (1). This is what releases the clutch when you push in the pedal. If the release bearing and/or guide is damaged it will affect your ability to shift. Problem is you can't see s**t through the tiny opening that the release fork goes through.
SOMETHING caused the damage to the slave rod ball. You saying there is damage to the boot (7) indicates something from the outside, like road debris, could have smacked the boot and caused the slave rod to jump out of the fork cup like bgoetz was speculating. The slave being dry of grease isn't too surprising, the older the car is the more grease will have dried up. And that will affect pedal feel and performance, but it wouldn't cause that gash.
Only other thing I can think of is that something from INSIDE the trans case caused the damage... like one of the spring fingers from the pressure plate broke off, caused initial havoc, then exited via the little window that the fork goes through and caused damage to the slave rod and boot. Or maybe your car has the Exedy clutch disc on it and one of the metal tabs that holds the springs in broke off like it has in so many other cases.
Honestly, if you can do intake/exhaust/master/slave installs, you reasonably could do the transmission. You need basic tools that you'd use for those other installs, four jack stands, and the ability to take your time (i.e. no need to drive the car for a few days). I was nervous when I did my first clutch swap as well, but you learn as you go, take it one step at a time, organize and label everything you take off, don't rush anything, and it will go OK. Its nice to have a friend around to help you out and learn with you too.
#24
And don't go to the dealer. They will overcharge and won't do same quality of work as decent independent shop.
#25
Hey guys. Ive got a video if yall are interested to check it out. My new master is coming in this Tuesday. Im probably gonna go ahead and let a local mechanic take the tranny off and fix my car. Probably gonna do clutch too since the tranny will be off. Btw is Exedy OEM clutch replacement kit a good one? The only mods my car has is intake, tp, and exhaust.
http://s785.photobucket.com/user/200...r.mp4.html?o=0 The video should be on my photobucket. You should hear a wierd noise i was describing coming somewhere from the tranny area.
http://s785.photobucket.com/user/200...r.mp4.html?o=0 The video should be on my photobucket. You should hear a wierd noise i was describing coming somewhere from the tranny area.
#26
Noooooo! Use only oem clutch parts from Honda.
Did you not read a few posts up the speculation that your whole problem is maybe someone put Exedy clutch in before and its falling apart on you?
Did you not read a few posts up the speculation that your whole problem is maybe someone put Exedy clutch in before and its falling apart on you?
#27
Oh...makes sense I guess. I might've skipped that part. OEM it is. I was asking because it seemed like a lot of people were giving good reviews about Exedy OEM replacement clutch kit.
#29
Ive been searching and searching on how to remove the transmission off of my S2000. For the most part it doesn't look too bad, but since I've never done it, Im wondering if I should attempt. It would be nice to have a friend who has done it to guide me. What do y'all think, should I attempt removing the tranny on my own? Im tried of not having a car.
#30
Ive been searching and searching on how to remove the transmission off of my S2000. For the most part it doesn't look too bad, but since I've never done it, Im wondering if I should attempt. It would be nice to have a friend who has done it to guide me. What do y'all think, should I attempt removing the tranny on my own? Im tried of not having a car.
Having said that, here is the service manual, see section 13-5: S2000 service manual
and here is a thread with some good posts about doing the job: Clutch Replacement