Turbo Vs Supercharger?
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Turbo Vs Supercharger?
just got my S a short while ago. i love it but it needs to be faster, i went from having a twin turbo 300z with fairlady engine(jspec) that ran mid 12's so naturally i need more speed, i am told that superchargers are the way to go for v tech engines because it is a pain in the ass to get the timing rite with turbos. but as i look more and more i see alot of turbo s2k's around. Is it true that turbo is that hard to work with? and if not what are some good turbos i might look into?
~mike
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Turbo=Almost zero parisitic drag on your current drive system but it needs time to spool up. Ball bearing turbos solve this quite a bit though.
Supercharger=Parisitic drag on your drive system kinda like an A/C compressor, but the boost is linear and instant.
Pick your poision.
If you want less tuning problems and easier instalation, I'd go with a supercharger. If you want more power potential with less strain on the drive system, you should go with a turbo.
Again, pick your poision.
Hope that helped.
Supercharger=Parisitic drag on your drive system kinda like an A/C compressor, but the boost is linear and instant.
Pick your poision.
If you want less tuning problems and easier instalation, I'd go with a supercharger. If you want more power potential with less strain on the drive system, you should go with a turbo.
Again, pick your poision.
Hope that helped.
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Originally posted by MeWannaS2K
Supercharger=...but the boost is linear and instant.
Supercharger=...but the boost is linear and instant.
The turbo, on the other hand, gets full boost around 3K. You pick which "lag" you want...
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can someone post a dyno graph of a turbo and supercharger power band together? I'd like to see exactly what the loss low end is... same boost levels... just to give a general idea.
bryan
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Wrong. You only get full boost at redline. Thats is 10 time worse than "turbo lag", which is very overrated. The only people that whine about turbo lag are the ones who have never driven a turbocharged car.
Please tell me where in my post I said that you get instant full boost. Oh, you can't because I didn't say that. Do you not know anything about math? Do you not know what linear means? I'll teach you since you obviously don't know. Linear means something increases, decreases, or stays constant at a constant rate. Meaning it goes by a ratio. The more RPM, the more boost you will have with a blower. Now please tell me why that was so hard to understand from what I posted. I'm sorry, maybe it was just hard for you to understand.
Also, where in my previous post did I even mention the word "turbo lag"? Oh, I didn't, so where did you get it from. Oh, that's right, you pulled it out of your ass didn't you. Why do you think that I said that ball bearing turbos help lower full boost RPM? Turbo lag is a word from the 80's when turbo's weren't built as well as they are now. The engineering that go into turbos now is way more advanced than it was in the 80's and early 90's. I didn't know I had to fully explain the obvious though. I'll try to explain things better for you next time.
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Sorry Streetdreamz, so far nobody has really helped answer your question, but it looks like we've got a good debate on our hands.
Ease of installation/simplicity AND 100 extra HP are a pretty damn good combination (supercharger).
Crazy amounts of horsepower with a little more difficulty with installation/tuning and maintenance is a decision only you can make.
Ease of installation/simplicity AND 100 extra HP are a pretty damn good combination (supercharger).
Crazy amounts of horsepower with a little more difficulty with installation/tuning and maintenance is a decision only you can make.
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I agree with nobody, I looked at it very hard. Turbos while producing more power are harder to maintain and usually if you bring your horse power up to high your going to find you'll need lots of additonal modifications to handle the power...but if money is no object or you have the time and like the project...go for it...either way it will be an adventure....lol