davidc1

You're "counting" of a second when shifting with the AP1 has nothing to do with the fact it was an AP1

davidc1

You're problems with shifting had nothing specifically to do with the fact it was an early AP1, but more to do with a problem with the tranny itself, most likely caused by abuse

s2k manic

well I didn't buy it new but I have to think the carbon synchronizes help with shifting at high rpm its not the only s2000 I have driven . I've been behind the wheel of quite a few and the ap2 trans just shifts better not all ap1 trannys are bad but there is a noticeable difference I didn't pull it out of thin air.

cdelena

You're problems with shifting had nothing specifically to do with the fact it was an early AP1, but more to do with a problem with the tranny itself, most likely caused by abuse
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Were you there? Many early S2000's had shifting problems noted by owners, magazines, and acknowledged by Honda and dealers. Straight from the factory without any abuse.

Honda claimed it was a 'stacking tolerance error' with transmission assembly, issues a TSB, and worked on transmissions under warranty. In my experience the results were poor and many early AP1s shifted poorly and it was blamed on drivers rather than Honda. I know of several buyers of '00 cars that ditched them over the issue.

Honda claimed my transmission was repaired but it was crap compared to later models. I replaced it with one from an '02 and it now performs properly with the car being driven the same way for almost 15 years.

davidc1

You're problems with shifting had nothing specifically to do with the fact it was an early AP1, but more to do with a problem with the tranny itself, most likely caused by abuse
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Were you there? Many early S2000's had shifting problems noted by owners, magazines, and acknowledged by Honda and dealers. Straight from the factory without any abuse.

Honda claimed it was a 'stacking tolerance error' with transmission assembly, issues a TSB, and worked on transmissions under warranty. In my experience the results were poor and many early AP1s shifted poorly and it was blamed on drivers rather than Honda. I know of several buyers of '00 cars that ditched them over the issue.

Honda claimed my transmission was repaired but it was crap compared to later models. I replaced it with one from an '02 and it now performs properly with the car being driven the same way for almost 15 years.





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Yeah, well....could be. A TSB was issued for grinding into 2nd. That's the only one I know of. Vast majority was fine. I pretty much read every magazine article ever on the car, don't remember any mentioning it.

cdelena

You're problems with shifting had nothing specifically to do with the fact it was an early AP1, but more to do with a problem with the tranny itself, most likely caused by abuse
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Were you there? Many early S2000's had shifting problems noted by owners, magazines, and acknowledged by Honda and dealers. Straight from the factory without any abuse.

Honda claimed it was a 'stacking tolerance error' with transmission assembly, issues a TSB, and worked on transmissions under warranty. In my experience the results were poor and many early AP1s shifted poorly and it was blamed on drivers rather than Honda. I know of several buyers of '00 cars that ditched them over the issue.

Honda claimed my transmission was repaired but it was crap compared to later models. I replaced it with one from an '02 and it now performs properly with the car being driven the same way for almost 15 years.





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Yeah, well....could be. A TSB was issued for grinding into 2nd. That's the only one I know of. Vast majority was fine. I pretty much read every magazine article ever on the car, don't remember any mentioning it.
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The press is careful when commenting on a flaw from a favored brand... it was usually was stated as 'the example we tested had a little catch when shifting into second at high rpm'.

They don't say it constantly grinds going into second once the box is hot which combined with the buzzing clutch gives a genuine bucket of bolts impression.

I promise you early cars very often had flawed transmissions to go with the flawed clutches.

captain007

Found a used ap2 tranny for a good price and low miles, and the shop is going to install it with the used ap1 engine going in. Thanks for the advice everyone