Track Day Aftermath....
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more so from the rear left wheel
The tyres are track tires meaning that I have spare track tires on OEM wheels which I change every time I visit the track. They are TOYO T1R 245/40/16 (if I am not mistaken) whereas for my daily driving I use Potenzas S03. No noticeable tire wear pattern and I have already covered 6 000 miles on the S03 so if there was a misalignment, I guess this would have shown. On the track tires the left outer section is a lot more worn (as is also the right inner part); being it a cw track I find the wear understandable. I put the comment to show you that out of the almost 90 miles I covered 80 were made drifting the rear left wheel, so I guess the wear to this wheel was a lot more
Last night I swapped back to the Potenzas to eliminate the possibility of road whinning because of uneven wear. This did not work, the noise is still audible at the speeds of 50 to 60 mph and then at speeds 80 to 85 miles.
Assuming it is the bearings is it usual for them to fail? Are they expensive? Hard to replace?
I find it pretty possible that hitting on the curb with some speed and your steering wheel fully locked while spinning could cause such an offset.
Is it the same cure you are talking about?
As for fragile diffs, this mainly occurs when the car is abused with repeated hot launches and very little regard given to maintenance. Yours doesn't appear to be this and I don't think your diff is the problem here. I'll let the track junkies respond more to this as well as the topic of track reliability.
ps. 10K to 15K miles for a diff fluid change is something I advise for a street driven car. If it were a track car some of the time, personally, I would change it more often.
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Originally Posted by VAG,Dec 8 2005, 12:45 AM
I put the comment to show you that out of the almost 90 miles I covered 80 were made drifting the rear left wheel, so I guess the wear to this wheel was a lot more
Any suggestions on the allignmnent values ?? I am using the HONDA values but I would preffer a more oversteer prone setting
Any ideas on the above...? I am really concerned I thought my S would give me many pleasing trouble free track visits but now the problems have started coming up I am giving it second thoughts Has anyone of you track lovers come across such problems or am I just unlucky?? :
Any suggestions on the allignmnent values ?? I am using the HONDA values but I would preffer a more oversteer prone setting
Any ideas on the above...? I am really concerned I thought my S would give me many pleasing trouble free track visits but now the problems have started coming up I am giving it second thoughts Has anyone of you track lovers come across such problems or am I just unlucky?? :
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OK maybe the 80 out of 90 miles was not accurate. What I am trying to say is that when cornering the effort was to drift the car rather than follow the optimum line and since in a track enviroment you need more speed to make the car drift such drifting took place at relatively high speeds (I guess this translates to more load being put on the dif/driving shafts/wheel bearings and especially so in the rear left one)
As for the rest I am thankfull for your attention to the matter I am at a crossroad really between wanting to continue driving the car the way I like it (including some visits to the track) and being afraid that if I continue enjoying it the results will be dear
As for the rest I am thankfull for your attention to the matter I am at a crossroad really between wanting to continue driving the car the way I like it (including some visits to the track) and being afraid that if I continue enjoying it the results will be dear
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Dear VAG the circuit of Megara is not too harsh on the cars , because is pretty slippery and it doesn't require great full throttle time either . You shouldn't worry too much about tracking your car , just make inspections before and after the event . Always allow for warm up and cool down lap , change fluids more often , and if you can run lower temperature . As for your noise problems here are some thoughts I'm hoping to be of some help . Clicking sound , as othrs said re torque the halfshaft nuts at a higher torque , additionally repack the CV boots with fresh grease as these tend to be low and wear especially the inboard ones . Check rear pad rattle shims if they get loose the pad has some rotational play and produces a single click . Hissing sound , if alignment is off and you constantly correcting , the torque sensor always sends signal for the motor to work . Alignment problems ? take a look at front lower arm bushings the rears tend to fail . Also take a look at the front upper A arm brackets , it has been reported that these shear off the frame . Good luck and try Serres circuit too !
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Thanx pal, your info was instructive really (I would appreciate a pm with instructions in Greek as well as Honda garages that know what they are doing ) I too tend to think that a well serviced car and diff would not have dif issues after a 3-4 visits to Megara...For sure I am not going anywhere before I get the noises fixed, I do not want to subject the car to further harassment unless I am certain of the problem...
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Bearingshere in US list for $82 at the dealer, $62 over the net. I realize these prices are probably different overseas, but it is a starting point. Also, I believe one of our members here ( https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showt...bearings+gernby ) had bearing damage that lead to hub damage, so consider having it closely inspected and possibly replaced ($122 / $91).
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