Timing Chain Tensioner Noise
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I don't know that much about the oiling system in these cars, and others have commented that it could be a oil pressure issue. I'd guess that the oil pump in these cars is constant volume rather than constant pressure. That being the case, the pressure results from the particular weight of oil you use. So a thicker oil would result in more pressure than a thin one. And you'll get a certain PSI drop across your oil filter, obviously less for a less restrictive filter (less/thinner media, larger oil outlets).
So would a less restrictive oil filter and 15w40 (with this theory) be able to provide adequate pressure for a failing tensioner to do it's job?
I'd love to test this out, but I've just recently replaced my tensioner and oil (so far no noise). The noise became noticable during my M1 0w40 OCI. After I replaced my tensioner, I went back to M1 EP 10w30 w/ LC20 (thin additive) and VSOT (very thick additive).
Anyway, I'm think that oil pressure is the issue with the tensioner. I just doubt that the springs are failing with the heat cycling (especially since I think they just hold the piston against the tensioner guide while the engine is off).
So would a less restrictive oil filter and 15w40 (with this theory) be able to provide adequate pressure for a failing tensioner to do it's job?
I'd love to test this out, but I've just recently replaced my tensioner and oil (so far no noise). The noise became noticable during my M1 0w40 OCI. After I replaced my tensioner, I went back to M1 EP 10w30 w/ LC20 (thin additive) and VSOT (very thick additive).
Anyway, I'm think that oil pressure is the issue with the tensioner. I just doubt that the springs are failing with the heat cycling (especially since I think they just hold the piston against the tensioner guide while the engine is off).
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I now have to give a VIN each time I get a TCT. This means Honda is tracking the issue and something may be done.
The s2k TCT is design flawed from the factory and in need of revision. My Generation System Modified TCTs are about ready.
The s2k TCT is design flawed from the factory and in need of revision. My Generation System Modified TCTs are about ready.
#316
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I assume you're talking about an allen wrench. You probably won't want an allen wrench... you should buy the socket type instead, so you can torque the bolt properly when you re-install it.
BTW.. if you have no other car or friends to take you to Autozone to get the required tool, there is a technique mentioned (I think in this thread) for installing the TCT without removing the maintenance bolt (it was mentioned for the use of guys that have superchargers). Basically, it involves using a technique similar to that which was used to prevent the TCT pistion from falling out when you removed the old one. (i.e., using the bolt & nut to "lock" the piston into place while inserting the TCT, and then remove them once the TCT is secured).
BTW.. if you have no other car or friends to take you to Autozone to get the required tool, there is a technique mentioned (I think in this thread) for installing the TCT without removing the maintenance bolt (it was mentioned for the use of guys that have superchargers). Basically, it involves using a technique similar to that which was used to prevent the TCT pistion from falling out when you removed the old one. (i.e., using the bolt & nut to "lock" the piston into place while inserting the TCT, and then remove them once the TCT is secured).
#317
Originally Posted by Billman250,Jun 28 2007, 06:04 PM
Those with bad TCT's do not have oil pressure issues.
I now have to give a VIN each time I get a TCT. This means Honda is tracking the issue and something may be done.
The s2k TCT is poorly designed and in need of revision.
I now have to give a VIN each time I get a TCT. This means Honda is tracking the issue and something may be done.
The s2k TCT is poorly designed and in need of revision.
By the way Bill, that custom Valve job turned my car into a snorting beast I'm consistently shifting @ 7k rpm with no issues
#318
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Originally Posted by Billman250,Jun 28 2007, 05:04 PM
I now have to give a VIN each time I get a TCT. This means Honda is tracking the issue and something may be done.
I'm not sure what the VIN is going to indicate, though. Seems like the TCT issue has affected all years of S2000s, so it's not like there was just one small batch that was bad.
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I just replaced my third one on friday nite, at 63k miles. this is def a known issue, and they are on intergalactic backorder as of now, so honda must be revising them, since they are failing at an alarming rate.
The next revision i hope to see is alternator. im gonna have to do my third one also now, the diode/rectifier keeps failing. and then allows A/C voltage into the system, how will YOU know, look at your cluster at idle. flickering is it? alternator is bad. it will still charge over 12 volts, that doesnt mean anything. just so you know. later gang dave
The next revision i hope to see is alternator. im gonna have to do my third one also now, the diode/rectifier keeps failing. and then allows A/C voltage into the system, how will YOU know, look at your cluster at idle. flickering is it? alternator is bad. it will still charge over 12 volts, that doesnt mean anything. just so you know. later gang dave