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SURVEY: Transmission fluid change - revisited.

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Old 04-15-2002, 06:21 PM
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The mobil 1 synth GEAR oil isn't motor oil. It's designed for manuel trannies.
Mobil 1 GEAR oil is GL5 lube designed for differentials. It is not a good thing to put in a gearbox.
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I just checked the Helm manual. It says the proper fluid to use is MTF-2. Is this different from MTF?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by xviper
[B]I just checked the Helm manual.
Old 04-15-2002, 07:00 PM
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Originally posted by cdelena


Mobil 1 GEAR oil is GL5 lube designed for differentials. It is not a good thing to put in a gearbox.
well, not in the S2000 gear box, erhh or modern gearboxes? I have an 86 that calls for GL4/5

But yeah the higher viscosity lubes can make the bearings run a bit hotter than they are supposed to, the Honda MTF is like a low viscosity oil with a high pressure additive for the gears.

The S2000 relies on oil flow to cool the bearings also, so use the MTF or a similar viscosity gear lube.

I have asked my parts department and they know of only one MTF??
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Replaced original MTF at 30k with Honda MTF. Thought I noticed an increase in notchiness, but it turned out to be the ole' clutch sticking problem (splined hub rusted).

Tried BG high-pressure additive - no difference.

Changed to M1 gear lube at 37k, no difference

Had clutch changed at 43k - BIG difference.

Had 6 guys from local club drive my car - they ALL, within two blocks of driving the car, commented on "how nice" my transmission shifted.

Still on the M1. Maybe I'll try the MTF again, if there's really a bearing heat dissipation problem with the M1.

xviper -I asked my dealer about the MTF-2 also. They insist there is only one Honda MTF. Of course he also insisted that Honda had a "standard spec" for the MTF, but after a few weeks of trying to find one, came back and said they didn't.

I've been told that it's against federal regs for a car manufacturer to require specific-branded fluids be used in the car, and that they must specify an industry-standard rating for all the fluids. Obviously that doesn't apply to Honda.
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Wow! So many varied experiences with different types of fluid. Since I've never had any issues with my tranny, I think I shall be conservative and go with the Honda fluid. At 20,000 km, I probably don't really need to change it but I just like to change the fluid at this time to see what condition it's in and just to know that I have fresh stuff in there. Can't hurt. Thanks for all your opinions. If you have more, keep them coming. Myself and others will learn a lot from this.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by modifry
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I put redline MT-90 in there, and the Tranny got worse.
I wanted to try Royal Purple, but everyone pretty much said to stay away.
I will switch back to Honda MTF, it just feel like the right idea.
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Originally posted by Incubus
I put redline MT-90 in there, and the Tranny got worse.
Worse in what way?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by cmnsnse
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well, not in the S2000 gear box, erhh or modern gearboxes? I have an 86 that calls for GL4/5
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