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Old 10-14-2004, 05:51 AM
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you are lacking a very simple concept. The same concept that was brought to the table for you over and over and over again. You still don't get it either.

Different dyno machines and different conditions (temperature, humidity, wind/air passing through, elevation, etc) will output varying horsepower figures on the exact same S2000. Dyno's are fairly useless as far as comparisions go. Unless all the dyno's are done one the machine and time.
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Originally Posted by turbo_pwr,Oct 14 2004, 03:41 PM
Socrates, I think the problem is we can't tell if you are being sarcastic or sincere in this post. Since you sort of contradict yourself by showing the dyno charts.
nope, i posted the dyno's because mtx asked me to do so.
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Old 10-14-2004, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by kane.s2k,Oct 14 2004, 05:51 AM
you are lacking a very simple concept. The same concept that was brought to the table for you over and over and over again. You still don't get it either.

Different dyno machines and different conditions (temperature, humidity, wind/air passing through, elevation, etc) will output varying horsepower figures on the exact same S2000. Dyno's are fairly useless as far as comparisions go. Unless all the dyno's are done one the machine and time.
why are you and others trying SO HARD to give ur knowledge to a guy that seems to be ignorant about it and not watn to take this knowledge? you guys did a good part on doing so and he didn't want it and still wont take it so let it be. ur wasting ur time for an ignorant and stubborn person.
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Come on guys.. peace Obviously EUDM S is more powerful than the USDM S and JDM S has some hps more than all the others. So why are you arguing exactly? Also dont forget: us gas with 90+octanes and european gas with 100+octanes
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Come on stop the discussion it is off topic, this topic is to know who has the strongest NA F20C, is not a discusion about EuroDM, USDM or JDM engines.....
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talking about N/A
here is a really good questions for all u toda spec A owners, is it just me who feels that the cams are not making power? I haven't done dyno yet, as I don't have time (EE ph.d working his a$$ off during week days, and no dyno places around here open in the weekend.) the only thing I can tell is slight improvement after 4K rpm. btw, I am running on the silver ones. don't exactly feel it's best bang for the bux
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Originally Posted by revto9k,Oct 15 2004, 02:02 AM
here is a really good questions for all u toda spec A owners, is it just me who feels that the cams are not making power?
There's not a bang for the buck w/ this car if you stay NA...
If you have a baseline dyno, I'd say you should go back and verify that the cams even are making power. Maybe they weren't properly installed or something. However, if they feel a little stronger above 4K, then they are probably installed properly, because the mid-range (4-7K) is where these cams make the most noticeable improvement. Here is my before/after dynos with a proper install:



Not sure how well the ARC intake works with it, but I noticed decent gains on the top-end when I added the AEM CAI v1, so the car felt stronger from 4K all the way to redline. You can click the link in my sig to go to my page w/ all of my dynos. Unfortunately, I don't have one yet with the R1000, but we have a dyno day scheduled for the 23rd.
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Old 10-15-2004, 07:56 AM
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Nice!! I really want to see that dyno with the R1000.

When you want to use the car for everyday, you re-install the OEM exhaust? Or you are one of those guys you drive without cat?
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Originally Posted by SocratesDTC,Oct 15 2004, 10:56 AM
When you want to use the car for everyday, you re-install the OEM exhaust? Or you are one of those guys you drive without cat?
I don't use the car every day. I have an Accord for daily driver duties. The S2000 is primarily for the track/autocross.
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