Stock Rear Shocks repairable?...
#12
That is a misread of the chart. Free spring length (active coils) and greater stiffness means the *installed* fronts are taller than the rears on the CR, which you can see in the pictures, or read from those who actually did the exchange:
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#13
I stand by my post, and by my reading of the chart (which I wrote). I have measured all of the OE springs and several OE dampers, and I have done the swap to CR shocks/springs.
Spring free length and rate are not all that determine ride height. Honda achieved essentially the same front and rear ride heights for all AP2s (see your 2nd link, posts by RadioZero), by accounting for all the relevant factors. So spring length, and even *installed* length, is not sufficient to determine ride height. (I believe you'll find that the installed length of the CR springs is no greater than, and probably shorter than, any other OE spring, when the springs are on their matching shock.)
Finally, suspensions settle and wear over time, so installing a new set of OE shocks/springs from any model year could "raise your ride height", if only because your ride height had dropped from new. (My AP1 literally got down to a 1-finger gap on my old track-abused OE shocks and springs.)
Spring free length and rate are not all that determine ride height. Honda achieved essentially the same front and rear ride heights for all AP2s (see your 2nd link, posts by RadioZero), by accounting for all the relevant factors. So spring length, and even *installed* length, is not sufficient to determine ride height. (I believe you'll find that the installed length of the CR springs is no greater than, and probably shorter than, any other OE spring, when the springs are on their matching shock.)
Finally, suspensions settle and wear over time, so installing a new set of OE shocks/springs from any model year could "raise your ride height", if only because your ride height had dropped from new. (My AP1 literally got down to a 1-finger gap on my old track-abused OE shocks and springs.)
#14
I'm not arguing about spring sag. Sure that's an issue and one of many reasons why I run swifts coilovers myself. That is still a strawman, if the spring's resistance to compression is greater, and the total number of live coils is greater and longer, it will be taller. Will it settle? Sure. Is it worth it, sure ONLY if you have no money and/or want to look stock, run a full CR suspension.
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-> My best friend K-Lo (AP2v1) offered me to get his Espelir springs (1.5 in. drop). And my other friend Alan (AP1v2) just gave me his cutted Tein S-Tech's (about 2 in. drop). So now all I need now are just stock shocks.
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