Starting Issue
#12
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#13
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I removed the fuel injectors & sent them to R.C. Fuel Injection to be cleaned & flow tested. All four were flowing at less than 100%, including three that were dripping. Calibration report shows that all were able to be brought back to 370 cc/min with an "excellent" spray pattern. After re-installing, the first start seemed normal (same thing happened previously after resetting the ECU), but all subsequent starts have involved the engine cranking several times before starting, the issue still persists.
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Over the past two months I've replaced the air filter, confirmed the spark plugs look fine, adjusted the valves (exhaust valves were a little tight), replaced the PCV valve & hose to the manifold and replaced all of the rubber seals on the valve cover. Still no luck resolving this issue.
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This month I replaced the starter, all four ignition coils, the broken ignition coil clips & performed a compression check (235 or 240 on all cylinders). Haven't thrown any codes since before cleaning the fuel injectors. It throws me off that maybe 5% of the time it will start normally, but I can't pinpoint the conditions that cause it to do so.
#16
Check into your cam sensors, I had a persistent but inconsistent issue with starting that wouldn't throw a CEL but would have similar starting issues to what you're describing. I actually just popped out sensor A and swapped it with sensor B for giggles to check (after wiping off the tiny amount of metal residue that was stuck to the magnet) and the car fired right up and ran perfectly. In the end I replaced both sensors about a month later just to prevent future issues and haven't had a problem with starting since.
#17
I like to use starting fluid to rule out fuel issues. Remove intake, spray a few seconds of SF into the tb, and immediately attempt to start. Like maybe have another person trying to start after you spray the fluid, so there is no delay.
SF can make up for lean or even some rich conditions. So if it fires up right away with the SF, its a fuel issue.
Note it may fire right up then die, then still have the extra cranking needed issue. The SF might get all used up before the car will run on its own. So it still proves a fuel issue if it dies, so long as it fires right up initially.
SF can make up for lean or even some rich conditions. So if it fires up right away with the SF, its a fuel issue.
Note it may fire right up then die, then still have the extra cranking needed issue. The SF might get all used up before the car will run on its own. So it still proves a fuel issue if it dies, so long as it fires right up initially.
#18
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Check into your cam sensors, I had a persistent but inconsistent issue with starting that wouldn't throw a CEL but would have similar starting issues to what you're describing. I actually just popped out sensor A and swapped it with sensor B for giggles to check (after wiping off the tiny amount of metal residue that was stuck to the magnet) and the car fired right up and ran perfectly. In the end I replaced both sensors about a month later just to prevent future issues and haven't had a problem with starting since.
#20
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I like to use starting fluid to rule out fuel issues. Remove intake, spray a few seconds of SF into the tb, and immediately attempt to start. Like maybe have another person trying to start after you spray the fluid, so there is no delay.
SF can make up for lean or even some rich conditions. So if it fires up right away with the SF, its a fuel issue.
Note it may fire right up then die, then still have the extra cranking needed issue. The SF might get all used up before the car will run on its own. So it still proves a fuel issue if it dies, so long as it fires right up initially.
SF can make up for lean or even some rich conditions. So if it fires up right away with the SF, its a fuel issue.
Note it may fire right up then die, then still have the extra cranking needed issue. The SF might get all used up before the car will run on its own. So it still proves a fuel issue if it dies, so long as it fires right up initially.