Spun Connecting Rod Bearings Question *UPDATE ON POST #21 W/ PICTURES*
#11
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Check the oil pick up screen and take off your vtec selonoid and check that screen. If you find shavings in either of these locations that means they got to the head and work themselves into the cylinders. If this is the case then just get a new shortblock.
#12
Originally Posted by yamahaSHO' timestamp='1359065358' post='22290409
In general... Spun rod bearings mean:
Crank = Throw away
Rod with spun bearing = Throw away.
Either replace the crank and that rod(s) and balance, or just replace the shortblock.
Crank = Throw away
Rod with spun bearing = Throw away.
Either replace the crank and that rod(s) and balance, or just replace the shortblock.
I figure that it will be around $1000-$1500 vs. $2500 - $4000 for a new block.
Also, I am going to take calipers to the crank this weekend and also check to see if it is marred/burned etc.
Here's what your crank is likely to look like:
Here's what your rod is likely to have experienced:
The opposite side of the rod (still on the big end) is likely discolored from heat and splayed. If the rod cap is hard to take off, it's because the bolts are now sitting like this: \ /
Originally Posted by JUSTINTHECOASTIE' timestamp='1359066723' post='22290535
I figure that it will be around $1000-$1500 vs. $2500 - $4000 for a new block.
Also, I am going to take calipers to the crank this weekend and also check to see if it is marred/burned etc.
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This is the route I would take. Buy a good used engine, replace the bearings, and swap your good parts over.
Originally Posted by Norccer' timestamp='1359064025' post='22290323
[quote name='apme123' timestamp='1359063718' post='22290310']
Learn to check your oil, I am sure after an expensive lesson like this you will be checking it every fill up. "BOTH SIDES OF THE DIPSTICK"
Learn to check your oil, I am sure after an expensive lesson like this you will be checking it every fill up. "BOTH SIDES OF THE DIPSTICK"
On a tangent, I plan to do a full write-up with pictures (documenting everything) on checking the bearings etc. Hopefully, it will help others.
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I haven't seen a performance car that doesn't eat the quickly shearing Mobil 1 oil.
#13
Thanks guys. Especially, thank you YamahaSHO. I have a plenitude of pictures that I will post tomorrow. My crankshaft on cylinders #1 and #2 is slightly scored, but nothing as significant as the pictures that you posted. I felt the crankshaft in the "scored" spots and it feels extremely smooth. I will still measure them and replace all of the connecting rod bearings. What I need to know is if the scoring is significant enough to get the crank polished.
Thanks all, until tomorrow.
Thanks all, until tomorrow.
#15
I can understand that, but since it is very minimal I would argue that I don't need new rods at least. I will get the pics up later today for everybody to have a look at. They are on my friend's camera so I don't have the ability to get them right now.
#17
Originally Posted by SouthDakotaS2K' timestamp='1359296437' post='22295908
Normally if you can see wear it's already too much. You're talking about clearances between 0.0007 - 0.002".
#18
Thanks. Hopefully, I will get things fixed soon.
I can understand that, but since it is very minimal I would argue that I don't need new rods at least. I will get the pics up later today for everybody to have a look at. They are on my friend's camera so I don't have the ability to get them right now.
I've seen people replace rod bearings on car that have spun them in the past. They ended up spinning them again, some on the very first drive.
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I think that I will pull the crankshaft to get it professionally polished if that is the case. ~~ still waiting on the pictures.
Originally Posted by Norccer' timestamp='1359317062' post='22296330
[quote name='SouthDakotaS2K' timestamp='1359296437' post='22295908']
Normally if you can see wear it's already too much. You're talking about clearances between 0.0007 - 0.002".
Normally if you can see wear it's already too much. You're talking about clearances between 0.0007 - 0.002".
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I think that I will pull the crankshaft to get it professionally polished if that is the case. ~~ still waiting on the pictures.
#19
I think Billman would disagree with calling this motor quits yet. If it were me, I think id just spend the $150 on another set of bearings, remove the end caps and replace them and bolt the pan back on and give it a go. There is a chance this could solve the issue indefinitely. For the minimal cost and effort it takes to do this, wouldn't it be worth trying, if is saved you the $3-4k and headache of doing a motor swap?
#20
I think Billman would disagree with calling this motor quits yet. If it were me, I think id just spend the $150 on another set of bearings, remove the end caps and replace them and bolt the pan back on and give it a go. There is a chance this could solve the issue indefinitely. For the minimal cost and effort it takes to do this, wouldn't it be worth trying, if is saved you the $3-4k and headache of doing a motor swap?