Shifter Went From Rough to Perfect in 2 Easy Steps
#11
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Originally Posted by badboy00z,Nov 14 2009, 05:21 PM
I kind of did the TSB. I used molly bearing grease and didn't do the part that requires me going under the car. Getting into reverse is better than before but not 100% perfect. I wonder if using the urea grease will be better??
Moly grease should be okay, I don't know if you'd get anything better with the Honda grease, though the Honda grease is high quality. Did you lube the contact surface where the shifter boot rubs, using silicon grease. Silicon grease is used on the shifter shaft so that it doesn't harm the shifter boot material. As long as you got proper lubricant on the important parts you should be good to go. Did you do the lower pivot ball and upper cage ?, I packed the grease in the parts prety good. Did you clean out the old stuff that was on the contact surfaces from the original installation ?. I cleaned the old stuff out with carb cleaner as it was pretty dry cruddy looking stuff. That way it would be as smooth as possible. Then just lube the contact surface where the shifterboot would rub and that should be all you can do.
#14
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Originally Posted by billiardboy904,Nov 14 2009, 06:50 PM
All my grease came in and I performed the shifter TSB myslef. I used over half of the UREA grease and some Shin'itsu on other parts. changed out my fluids and the difference was amazing. Still, on cold days, I get the infamous notchiness but it should go away after the tranny warms up.
I still have some notchy while shifting and that is most likely due to syncros going bad. Hard fact to sit on but I will have to deal this that until I decide to redo the internals or tranny swap.
Either way, the TSB is a great improvement in shifter feel and should be performed by everyone with an AP1 or AP2 with higher mileage.
I too cleaned up all of the old metallic grease but I also notcied some watery substance down at the bottoom where the shifter sits. I dried it up and threw in some Urea as well.
I still have some notchy while shifting and that is most likely due to syncros going bad. Hard fact to sit on but I will have to deal this that until I decide to redo the internals or tranny swap.
Either way, the TSB is a great improvement in shifter feel and should be performed by everyone with an AP1 or AP2 with higher mileage.
I too cleaned up all of the old metallic grease but I also notcied some watery substance down at the bottoom where the shifter sits. I dried it up and threw in some Urea as well.
Don't feel bad, you get brand new BMW's and Nissans experiencing the exact same problem right off the lot. It's just something that is inherent in performance trannies with lots of feel passing through the shifter. Cold weather 1-2 shifting is an issue on many vehicles. My Neon SRT4 had the issue from day one and it never went away, on some days it was impossible to get it into 2nd gear without babying it.
You can use the Shin Itsu grease for the convertible seals and pretty much all other rubber seals on the car, it works great to keep them in new condition. The Urea Hi Temp grease is good for the clutch slave cylinder and shift fork if you're up to doing that maintenance, works well too.
#15
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by billiardboy904,Nov 14 2009, 06:50 PM
All my grease came in and I performed the shifter TSB myslef. I used over half of the UREA grease and some Shin'itsu on other parts. changed out my fluids and the difference was amazing. Still, on cold days, I get the infamous notchiness but it should go away after the tranny warms up.
I still have some notchy while shifting and that is most likely due to syncros going bad. Hard fact to sit on but I will have to deal this that until I decide to redo the internals or tranny swap.
Either way, the TSB is a great improvement in shifter feel and should be performed by everyone with an AP1 or AP2 with higher mileage.
I too cleaned up all of the old metallic grease but I also notcied some watery substance down at the bottoom where the shifter sits. I dried it up and threw in some Urea as well.
I still have some notchy while shifting and that is most likely due to syncros going bad. Hard fact to sit on but I will have to deal this that until I decide to redo the internals or tranny swap.
Either way, the TSB is a great improvement in shifter feel and should be performed by everyone with an AP1 or AP2 with higher mileage.
I too cleaned up all of the old metallic grease but I also notcied some watery substance down at the bottoom where the shifter sits. I dried it up and threw in some Urea as well.
#16
I've just had my '08 for about 6 weeks, and I'm pretty sure it has the OEM Tranny fluid. However, I plan to change it pretty soon to GM Synchromesh Friction Modified. It was by far the best fluid for my '02 S2000. I was grinding 2nd gear multiple times per day with the OEM fluid, and tried about 4 other fluids before finding one that worked well. With GMSFM, I was able go several months between a 2nd gear grind, and the notchiness was greatly reduced. I haven't had any grinding problems in my '08, but it is pretty notchy when it's cold.
#18
Originally Posted by gernby,Nov 17 2009, 09:37 AM
I've just had my '08 for about 6 weeks, and I'm pretty sure it has the OEM Tranny fluid. However, I plan to change it pretty soon to GM Synchromesh Friction Modified. It was by far the best fluid for my '02 S2000. I was grinding 2nd gear multiple times per day with the OEM fluid, and tried about 4 other fluids before finding one that worked well. With GMSFM, I was able go several months between a 2nd gear grind, and the notchiness was greatly reduced. I haven't had any grinding problems in my '08, but it is pretty notchy when it's cold.
#19
i'd be careful when using sychromesh...i tried that stuff in a protege5 and it didn't work well because it was too slippery when hot. for the first week, the shifter was buttery smooth. after the 1st week, cold shifts remained smooth, but it then became very hard to into any gear once the tranny heated up. by the time hot summer weather rolled around, it was impossible to get the shifter into any gear without double clutching. everything worked ok again after changing out the synchromesh.
#20
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Originally Posted by turbo_slug,Nov 18 2009, 05:12 PM
i'd be careful when using sychromesh...i tried that stuff in a protege5 and it didn't work well because it was too slippery when hot. for the first week, the shifter was buttery smooth. after the 1st week, cold shifts remained smooth, but it then became very hard to into any gear once the tranny heated up. by the time hot summer weather rolled around, it was impossible to get the shifter into any gear without double clutching. everything worked ok again after changing out the synchromesh.