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Originally Posted by SouthDakotaS2K' timestamp='1391089117' post='22990471
There's no doubt you can use those diy products to set toe and maybe camber, but a good alignment is much more than that. Not to mention you could spend several hours attempting to get it into spec while most alignment shops will have it knocked out in less than an hour. Your time is worth something too right? Plus you get a print out with most alignments so you know it's in spec.
A quick and dirty way to get a more accurate DIY "trackside" alignment is to place newspapers under each tire. This allows you to turn the wheels for caster measurement with relative ease and very little friction. A better way may be to use 2 plates of sheet metal with grease between them (grease plates) under each tire.
There is no question that a full and complete alignment can be done with great accuracy using the parallel bars I suggested, along with a quality camber gauge. One can even take wheelbase measurements and set the dimensions with accuracy. Something that is generally ignored by most shops.
It does take quite a bit of initial setup time to get it right, and on cars like the S, it's not so easy to work underneath without knocking the bars. However, the advantage of using bars is that you can configure the bars and car to each-other for rapid repeatability. You can do this by using a centering link, front and rear. Or by hard points to measure from.
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IMO: when you make sure the alignment bolts are not seized in their bushings in any way the alignment will hold for a while.
Providing you do not hit anything.
One before last time I had it aligned by someone calling himself a "Werkstatt Meister"
(after replacing a rear knuckle myself to replace a rear bearing I have no tools for.. long story)
Anyway...
After close to an hour he came back, sweat on his forehead, saying the settings I asked for were impossible.
He also said it was impossible anyway as all the values changed when he turned just one bolt.
Yeah... he was clearly a Meister.
So, back to my known alignment guy, it took a 500km drive to get there.
Finished in 20 minutes, at my spec, no worries.
That was on a laser machine, it took longer to mount the sensors (or the reflecting plates) and to let the computer do its thing than it took to actually turn bolts to align it.
Oh well...
Providing you do not hit anything.
One before last time I had it aligned by someone calling himself a "Werkstatt Meister"
(after replacing a rear knuckle myself to replace a rear bearing I have no tools for.. long story)
Anyway...
After close to an hour he came back, sweat on his forehead, saying the settings I asked for were impossible.
He also said it was impossible anyway as all the values changed when he turned just one bolt.
Yeah... he was clearly a Meister.
So, back to my known alignment guy, it took a 500km drive to get there.
Finished in 20 minutes, at my spec, no worries.
That was on a laser machine, it took longer to mount the sensors (or the reflecting plates) and to let the computer do its thing than it took to actually turn bolts to align it.
Oh well...
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