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Old 05-24-2008, 08:58 AM
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i recently installed my buddy club n+ coilovers and i have run into a bit of a problem, there is no camber kit sold for the rear that will work with the sixteen inch stock rear rims. i was wondering if the rear has a built in camber adjustment that i am not aware of? Also if not does anyone have suggestions for the camber fix? changing rims isnt really an option. Please help if you can. thanks.
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The front and rear both have adjustable camber, caster and toe built in, but only to a certain degree. If you drop the car more than about 1.3"-1.5", you will have to go out and buy adjustable arms from someone like J's Racing or TC Design.
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What is the camber now and how much did you lower the car?
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the s2000 is stock adjustable camber to a certain point just like zbrewha863 says . When i dropped my car about 2inches or more on tein flex my camber was at -3.2 or -3.5 and that was on stock camber. but i adjusted it to front -1.8 rear -2.2. if your not going to drop it low low as in 1.2 - 1.5 you should be fine with stock camber
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i am pretty low right now, the back is tucked and front is about the same, maybe a little higher. an alignment shop told me the tires will last about a thousand miles before they are shot with the camber i have right now. if you have any money saving solutions under around 400 dollars to fix the camber all the way around let me know please. thanks.
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Camber doesn't wear tires very fast unless you're doing burn outs. Toe is the biggest culprit.

If you're really worried about it, max out the factory settings for camber. Hopefully, you'll get around -2.5 deg or so. Then just set the toe to factory #s. Your tire wear should be fine.
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^^^^ yeap toe is the main factor of tire wear. I have fronts -1.8 rear -2.2 camber and my tire wear still looks good still alot of meat left driving around for almost 1 year (10k-15k miles) and on used tires
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How long do tires typically last when driving dumped with -2 degrees of camber and toe corrected?
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Originally Posted by SDSILVERM3,May 26 2008, 02:33 AM
How long do tires typically last when driving dumped with -2 degrees of camber and toe corrected?
As was stated earlier, camber within the stock range (and even a little beyond)does not cause premature tire wear; excessive toe is the main reason. Your tires will last as long with somewhat high camber as they do with lower values.

I run -0.7 front and -1.8 deg. rear camber on my S2000, and -2.2 front and -2.5 deg. rear on my Miata. I set front toe at 0 and use a very small amount of rear toe-in on both cars. There is no problem with unusual tire wear on either car.

High negative camber (>2 deg. IMO) will reduce straight-line braking, but improve cornering grip when the car is pushed hard.
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Originally Posted by SDSILVERM3,May 25 2008, 10:33 PM
How long do tires typically last when driving dumped with -2 degrees of camber and toe corrected?
It depends on about 1 million things. None of which you mentioned.

The type of tire. The tire wear rating. The type of lowering method (more bounce equals more in and out scrub which equals faster wear), type of roads, how well your car was aligned, how well your car STAYS aligned, if you broke the springs in properly before aligning, how old the tires are, the quality of the tire, the construction of the tire and how well it works with YOUR setup, the climate in your region, and...ofcourse...it depends a great deal on how YOU drive YOUR car. I could go on with the factors...but I think you get the point:

There's no magical number of miles.

However, -2deg of camber is not much. If the toe is actually corrected, the tires should last a long time depending on how you drive. AP2s have less toe IN than AP1s...so the tires on the AP2s should last longer under factory toe conditions. The CR has a LITTLE less toe in than the AP1.

AP1 has 6mm in, the CR has 5mm in, and the AP2 has 4mm??? in. That's total toe in the rear. So 3, 2.5, and 2mm in on each side respectively.
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