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Old 02-15-2006, 09:52 AM
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the only proper way around it is to use something like an AEM EMS
Old 02-15-2006, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by s2kBryan916,Feb 15 2006, 11:48 AM
I do apologize, I was reading over what I said and I didnt make it clear I was talking about Closed loop/ cruise or idle.
NP. You obviously had some decent knowledge to share, but it was confusing more than helping in this particular situation.
Old 02-15-2006, 09:59 AM
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AEM will work but you will not pass emissions .

Best bet would be a Greedy E-Manage Ultimate with all harnesses . Yes its a piggy back but if you use the injector and ignition harnesses you can control everything after the ecu . Midrange power can be found in ignition timing , And it is OBD2 compliant

The Greedy can also work like a VAFC if you don't use the inj/ign harnesses but you will be in the same situation .

The third solution I am working on
Old 02-15-2006, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by S2kracka,Feb 15 2006, 10:52 AM
You would be resetting the ECU a lot, plus when you have to give the ECU time to relearn the car and your VAFC might lose its settings.
I dont think th4ee VAFC settings will be lost, they are always there... So I'll just reset the ecu for a while until I get an aem ems...

Im still confused on what the greddy emanage does....
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resetting the ECU wont help, unless you reset your ECU right before you tuned the VAFC.
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resetting the ECU wont help, unless you reset your ECU right before you tuned the VAFC.
Old 02-15-2006, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin S2k,Feb 15 2006, 02:57 PM
resetting the ECU wont help, unless you reset your ECU right before you tuned the VAFC.
Yes and No , You would have to reset the ECU every few minutes as you drive so the ECU never learns


read my last paragraph even though it is confusing I know I just re read it . But I have updated it in red below .



And resetting the ecu will not fix this problem as you will be on different set of tables than when you tuned the car on the dyno . And even if you reset the Ecu before you dynoed it was changing the shorterm and longterm trims on every pull , so your settings would keep on changing .

so you would see improvements without touching the VAFC for the first pull till around the 3rd or 4th pull .
If you notice when people are just making runs without tuning that the 2nd or 3rd run nets them the highest # without tuning anything , This is because you ECU has switch and retuned the maps for more aggressive driving . After that the #'s will stabilize and start dropping depending how many pulls you have mad due to heat soak .


Kayvan , I will be looking forward to your call .
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Originally Posted by Twiztid,Feb 15 2006, 12:26 PM
Yes and No , You would have to reset the ECU every few minutes as you drive so the ECU never learns


read my last paragraph even though it is confusing I know I just re read it . But I have updated it in red below .





If you notice when people are just making runs without tuning that the 2nd or 3rd run nets them the highest # without tuning anything , This is because you ECU has switch and retuned the maps for more aggressive driving . After that the #'s will stabilize and start dropping depending how many pulls you have mad due to heat soak .


Kayvan , I will be looking forward to your call .
Thanks again bud .


I'll try to give you a call around 4:30 west cost and if I can't get a hold of you today, I'll try tommrow for sure
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Originally Posted by Twiztid,Feb 15 2006, 10:59 AM
AEM will work but you will not pass emissions
Can you elaborate on that? Is it because of (lack of) ODBII?
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Originally Posted by Race Miata,Feb 15 2006, 05:47 PM
Can you elaborate on that? Is it because of (lack of) ODBII?
Yes the lack of that too !!

and of coarse the lack of OBDII


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