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Old 05-12-2007, 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by J.nguyen,May 11 2007, 09:03 PM
ic, good info.. hmm i don thave a torque wrench.. can i just hand tight it and guess? also what is the diagram of pattern? cant i just put em all on ligthly, then do it criss-cross?

if u can post diagram or etc plz help out.

and using honda bond rtv u just apply on it the surface and thats it right? do i touch it with my hands to smooth it out?
hey, it's you again!

buy a torque wrench, it's hard to remove snapped bolt under the block, just buy one now and use it for sparkplug for rest of your life. it will pay for itself.

hit me up if you are in socal, just use my torque wrench.

i dont think there's a diagram for the oil pan, just even pressure in cross pattern.

the bolt is pretty small, don't over torque it, the head will snap in half and you'll be unde the car for two hours drilling and pulling metal bits.

for all RTV, you don't want to touch anything with it dry, use a piece of ice to smooth it out, the easy way is to do the oil pan and mate it after.
the rtv will not stick to the ice and you can use the ice cube to shape the rtv to a even surface.

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There is a diagram for the bolts. For the most part it is criss cross pattern, but its not a perfect square or rectangle, so it takes some thought. I can see tomorrow if I have it in the garage anywhere. I got it from hardtopguy. I'm sure there is a digital copy somewhere but mine was on paper. If I find it I'll scan it.

I would definitely buy a torque wrench. 8.7 ft/lbs is NOTHING. I would have definitely tightened them tighter than that if I didn't go buy a good Craftsman wrench. I've heard they are very easy to overtigthen and that is not the place you want to strip or anything.
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ic thanks for ur guys help / info

i think my friend has a TQ wrench and ill borrow it..

very good thing i posted this thread .. or else i would be doing wrong stuff..

thanks and wish me luck..

i hear using scott brite pads to clean the old sealant is what i need to do?
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sorry to bring up an old thread, but i have a ? regarding honda bond. grey or black? i went to the dealer to get some (thinking there was only grey) and the parts guy tells me that the black is rated to a higher temp. the stuff that was on itwhen i pulled the pan was grey. i'm not sure which is best for this application though. just want to get people's opinion. i'd hate to have to pull the pan if i go with the black and it doesn't seal properly, but at the same time i'd like the higher temp rating since it is turbo'd.
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just get the grey, you'll be fine
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There is no Honda sealant that is black. The 2 versions of of Hondabond/Ultra flange are both grey.
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Not sure if this is already posted--here's the tightening order for the oil pan:

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I used a product on my oil pan called Honda Ultra Flange II. Comes in a 4oz pressured can. Parts person told me it was the replacement for Honda Bond and it's also gray in color. Part number on the can #08718-0009. It worked for me.
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