Repacking the CV axles
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02-19-2014, 08:05 AM
#44
For our inboard spider-in-cup style CV's I would not have used a general lithium complex (*) NLGI 2 grease, simply because it is not at all like the original.
This is not an opinion, I'm sure you have seen the grease that came out.
The "original" replacement was also not at all like NLGI 2.
The people that defend their 10W-30, holding the manual in one hand and their beloved 10W-30 in the other saying "Only out of my cold dead hands" switch to a completely different CV grease (or diff oil...) just because the person/company that sells it says it's ok.
500 miles of driving proves little, you know that.
The axles do not spin that fast, IMO the grease needs to be thin enough to be at the wall of the CV cup to lube where its needed most.
(*) yes, lithium complex based grease is general grease.
The more exotic ones are the urea based (well known overhere as clutch spline grease) and alu-complex.
Oh well.....
The diff looks great!
This is not an opinion, I'm sure you have seen the grease that came out.
The "original" replacement was also not at all like NLGI 2.
The people that defend their 10W-30, holding the manual in one hand and their beloved 10W-30 in the other saying "Only out of my cold dead hands" switch to a completely different CV grease (or diff oil...) just because the person/company that sells it says it's ok.
500 miles of driving proves little, you know that.
The axles do not spin that fast, IMO the grease needs to be thin enough to be at the wall of the CV cup to lube where its needed most.
(*) yes, lithium complex based grease is general grease.
The more exotic ones are the urea based (well known overhere as clutch spline grease) and alu-complex.
Oh well.....
The diff looks great!
You are the most knowing person I know on lubricants so I will heed your advice and repack the CVs with a more specific lubricant that is more fluid.
02-19-2014, 09:29 AM
#45
Banned
Thats new axles from the parts store.
OEM axles are not that great, there is nothing magical about them. The inner cups on the ones we get look machined from billet steel rather than the stamped welded stuff honda uses.
How many threads do you read about screwed up oem axles.
OEM axles are not that great, there is nothing magical about them. The inner cups on the ones we get look machined from billet steel rather than the stamped welded stuff honda uses.
How many threads do you read about screwed up oem axles.
02-19-2014, 10:15 AM
#47
Originally Posted by iamxpL' timestamp='1392820339' post='23023030
^^ new oem axles? i wouldnt replace them with anything but OEM.
OEM axles are not that great, there is nothing magical about them. The inner cups on the ones we get look machined from billet steel rather than the stamped welded stuff honda uses.
How many threads do you read about screwed up oem axles.
02-19-2014, 10:23 AM
#48
within a minute of searching.
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/106...ft-shop-axles/
and this drive shaft shop, not an autozone. i know it was a different axle and not an oem direct replacement, just showing you even a well known competent drive line specialist shop couldnt get it right.
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/985...the-cv-joints/
one more
ninja edit
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/882...ion-vibration/
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/106...ft-shop-axles/
and this drive shaft shop, not an autozone. i know it was a different axle and not an oem direct replacement, just showing you even a well known competent drive line specialist shop couldnt get it right.
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/985...the-cv-joints/
one more
ninja edit
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/882...ion-vibration/
02-21-2014, 07:31 AM
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The Redline is also NLGI 2 so IMO too thick for a spider-in-cup style inboard CV.
This thin OEM grease is for a reason I think.
As I mentioned in my post #3 I used CV grease from GKN, as far as I remember now I went to a local parts store and asked for CV grease and they came up with that stuff.
I was pleasantly surprised they had such specific grease, that was the same in viscosity as OEM, in stock.
Isn't there replacement grease in the OEM CV-boot kit?
Anyway.. I'm - again - not an oil specialist at all.
All I do is read about oil / lubrication and try my best to form an opinion based on what I read.
Sometimes that takes a lot of reading.
What it comes to engine oil I just say:
#1 - Okay... I would like a 30 weight for engine oil and as thin as possible when cold - as every oil is too thick when cold = 0W-30.
#2 - Okay.... I would like strong oil in my diff, the SAE specs changed so the 75W-110 is closest to the 1999 SAE 90 OEM oil, it doesn't hurt to go thicker.
When it comes to the diff I have the experience that fresh diff oil changes diff (= handeling) behavior.
Add to this that Richmond (4.57R gear manufacturer) recommends 75W-140 for their gear sets - why argue with the specialists?
So my diff oil = SAE 190, my OEM recommendation = 75W/110-140
#3 - Okay... this OEM CV grease is pretty thin.. why´s that?
Lets replace it with simular grease
It all IS NOT rocket science IMO.
This thin OEM grease is for a reason I think.
As I mentioned in my post #3 I used CV grease from GKN, as far as I remember now I went to a local parts store and asked for CV grease and they came up with that stuff.
I was pleasantly surprised they had such specific grease, that was the same in viscosity as OEM, in stock.
Isn't there replacement grease in the OEM CV-boot kit?
Anyway.. I'm - again - not an oil specialist at all.
All I do is read about oil / lubrication and try my best to form an opinion based on what I read.
Sometimes that takes a lot of reading.
What it comes to engine oil I just say:
#1 - Okay... I would like a 30 weight for engine oil and as thin as possible when cold - as every oil is too thick when cold = 0W-30.
#2 - Okay.... I would like strong oil in my diff, the SAE specs changed so the 75W-110 is closest to the 1999 SAE 90 OEM oil, it doesn't hurt to go thicker.
When it comes to the diff I have the experience that fresh diff oil changes diff (= handeling) behavior.
Add to this that Richmond (4.57R gear manufacturer) recommends 75W-140 for their gear sets - why argue with the specialists?
So my diff oil = SAE 190, my OEM recommendation = 75W/110-140
#3 - Okay... this OEM CV grease is pretty thin.. why´s that?
Lets replace it with simular grease
It all IS NOT rocket science IMO.