Race gas
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Our cars call for a minimum of 91 octane. What is the ideal octane number to run? Obviously at some point there is no benefit to increasing the octane put in the tank.
As many times as this topic has come up, I've never seen the ideal number stated, other than opinions.
As many times as this topic has come up, I've never seen the ideal number stated, other than opinions.
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The ideal octane rating would be the one that just barely prevents knocking/pinging under the heaviest of engine loads. What ecomes more important at this point woud be the distillation curve. The distillation curve is what allows the engine to rev freely and cleanly. The octane rating and distillation curve are mutually exclusive. That means that you don't have to select a fuel that is tied closely into both parameters. In my opionion, if you really want to test the outer limits of fuel components, try VP's MR2 or Ultimate-4. The Ultimate-4 will probably be easier on the O2 sensors. That is, price be damned! FYI, I will eventually test the MR-2 myself, probably will mix at a 2:1 ratio with pump premium and go from there.
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Originally Posted by S2000RAT,Apr 22 2005, 09:00 AM
I don't have a CAT. I run race gas all the time. Mostly C116 from VP. I also use Klotz 113. I can feel the diff. big time. It won't hurt if you run a 50/50 blend one time. If you use it a lot it will destroy the CAT. Plus I the sweet smell.
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Stock S2000's should run pump gas. No reason to use race gas, you will not benefit from it. Leaded race gas will eventually ruin the cat and O2 sensor.
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Even stock S2000s can benefit from the _right_ race gas. VP MS103 and MS109 are capable of producing from 1-3% more power than 91 octane pump gas without changing the tuneup at all. With retuning, those gains can move to 2-5%. Both these fuels are unleaded and will not harm catalytics (well, at least the 103, can't recall on the 109).
Other manufacturers make similar fuels, and they are usually heavily oxygenated.
UL
p.s. - C16 is a very slow burning fuel best suited to high boost applications. There are better choices for moderate hp/boost apps.
Other manufacturers make similar fuels, and they are usually heavily oxygenated.
UL
p.s. - C16 is a very slow burning fuel best suited to high boost applications. There are better choices for moderate hp/boost apps.
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Originally Posted by ultimate lurker,Apr 22 2005, 09:22 PM
Even stock S2000s can benefit from the _right_ race gas. VP MS103 and MS109 are capable of producing from 1-3% more power than 91 octane pump gas without changing the tuneup at all. With retuning, those gains can move to 2-5%. Both these fuels are unleaded and will not harm catalytics (well, at least the 103, can't recall on the 109).
Other manufacturers make similar fuels, and they are usually heavily oxygenated.
UL
p.s. - C16 is a very slow burning fuel best suited to high boost applications. There are better choices for moderate hp/boost apps.
Other manufacturers make similar fuels, and they are usually heavily oxygenated.
UL
p.s. - C16 is a very slow burning fuel best suited to high boost applications. There are better choices for moderate hp/boost apps.
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