Possible valves got loose while driving
#21
That looks very very bad !!!
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"Don't think you're reading right again. I set the valve clearances about 1,000 miles ago. I checked all 16 of them 2-3 times after all was done and verified they were all on the looser side while still being WITHIN spec. I'm thinking maybe i torqued down the locknuts incorrectly... I'm having it towed to the shop tomorrow morning."
Just to be sure... after you adjusted the valves (1,000 miles ago) --- the adjustment screws looked like this?
https://i.imgur.com/WJph7Q0.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/vKtXb0E.jpg
Because, I highly doubt they tightened up, on their own --- in 1,000 miles of driving.
Just to be sure... after you adjusted the valves (1,000 miles ago) --- the adjustment screws looked like this?
https://i.imgur.com/WJph7Q0.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/vKtXb0E.jpg
Because, I highly doubt they tightened up, on their own --- in 1,000 miles of driving.
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Originally Posted by weekendwarrior44' timestamp='1454444662' post='23869593
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[quote name='s2000Junky' timestamp='1454396565' post='23869023']
WTF, someone totally fubared a valve adjustment. If you ran it like that id be surprised if you didn't damage something. Exhaust valves that are way too tight (which these clearly are) will stay open during the combustion cycle, and if they dont make contact with the pistons and bend or break your valve tree assy, they will surely over heat and melt down. This would explain why the coolant was boiling over.
Did you adjust the valves this way? Or did the company who replaced your valves? And not only are they not adjusted properly, but someone sure fouled up the nut and threads on those adjusters. Looks like real amateur work here. DO NOT START THIS CAR AGAIN until you can get someone experienced to properly adjust the valves, and hope no serious engine damage was done.
[quote name='weekendwarrior44' timestamp='1454427233' post='23869282']
[quote name='s2000Junky' timestamp='1454396565' post='23869023']
WTF, someone totally fubared a valve adjustment. If you ran it like that id be surprised if you didn't damage something. Exhaust valves that are way too tight (which these clearly are) will stay open during the combustion cycle, and if they dont make contact with the pistons and bend or break your valve tree assy, they will surely over heat and melt down. This would explain why the coolant was boiling over.
Did you adjust the valves this way? Or did the company who replaced your valves? And not only are they not adjusted properly, but someone sure fouled up the nut and threads on those adjusters. Looks like real amateur work here. DO NOT START THIS CAR AGAIN until you can get someone experienced to properly adjust the valves, and hope no serious engine damage was done.
the valves where the locknuts look like they're not on all the way actually are not tight at all and have a LOT of play, like i mentioned in the original post the adjuster screw somehow went in probably because the valve is sitting lower than the others the screw has more room to go in and doesn't come out on top as much as the other ones. please try reading the post again.
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Don't think you're reading right again. I set the valve clearances about 1,000 miles ago. I checked all 16 of them 2-3 times after all was done and verified they were all on the looser side while still being WITHIN spec. I'm thinking maybe i torqued down the locknuts incorrectly... I'm having it towed to the shop tomorrow morning
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I think I'm reading just fine, but maybe its between the lines I'm thinking you probably shouldn't do valve adjustments anymore based on what what's being shown in this thread. I hope no serious damage was done other then needing to replace your lock nuts and adjusters.
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well what i'm saying is that the valves did NOT look like that when the adjustment was done, i think i may have just over torqued them and if that's the case everything would've been fine if i torqued them right. other possibility is that the car overheated and caused the valves to sink and that's why they look like that now. the locknuts only look like that now because those two valves seem to have sunken in so i had to move the adjuster screw in much further to get the same valve clearance it had before,if that makes sense
#26
This might be a dumb question but is it possible that the guys who replaced the valves used the wrong ones (length wise)? Could the car of run normal with the wrong ones in till they got loose?
#27
Maybe only you would know if this is a typo or not, but the correct TDC order I've read on all the DIY's here are 1,3,4,2. Not 1,4,3,2
#28
Honestly as long as the cam lobes are roughly 90° relative to the rocker arm you can properly adjust that set of valves. If the cam lobe is parallel or acting on the rocker arm you will never set clearance properly. When I do cylinder one I go to tdc then move the crank so the corresponding cam lobe is 90° relative to the rocker instead of the ~60-70 degrees when it's right on tdc.
#29
There is no way a valve would sink nearly 15-20mm (based on the pics of compensated adjusters) to then not make contact with the pistons at some point during the cycle, or better yet still be held by the valve keepers and retainers, unless the valve springs stayed compressed somehow by unknown forces. From the pics they do look compressed, but I attributed that to being overly tight from the adjusters and or cam lobe position. If you put the cam position in proper adjustment position for that valve and back off the adjusters, do the valves springs stay compressed? Maybe the springs are broken?
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No because I myself bought the OEM valves from the dealer and took them to the mechanic