Possible over-torque of axle nut?
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Possible over-torque of axle nut?
So I've been hearing a *pop* right when I brake and right when I take off after backing out of a parking spot. It sounds like from the right rear, but I can't say 100% for sure. Assuming the problem was the axle nut, I got a 2' 3/4" breaker bar and re-torqued both per the DIY (I weigh about 200lbs, so I just stood on the end). They both look like they'd been done before, but only about 10-15 degrees each. What worries me is that the same amount of force turned the left rear nut a lot farther than the right side... I haven't driven it yet to test it (since there's a Lowe's truck in the way), but I thought I'd see what you guys thought. Also, I found that the factory scissor jack handle (the thing with the hook on one end) works as an impromptu staking tool.
Left rear (after):
Right rear (after):
Left rear (after):
Right rear (after):
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Can't say what the best bet is on your car may be, but...
Yes, the nut can be over torqued. Over the years a number of posts have shown the axle fatigued and twisted off the outer CV joint. Mine failed after a new bearing install and I am sure it was from repeated tightening from previous failed bearing installs.
Yes, the nut can be over torqued. Over the years a number of posts have shown the axle fatigued and twisted off the outer CV joint. Mine failed after a new bearing install and I am sure it was from repeated tightening from previous failed bearing installs.
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It is a M24 fastener.
According to standardized torque figures, if the bolt is a class 8.8 bolt you would need to torque it beyond 499lbs ft in order to "overtorque" it.
http://www.fullermet...ue_figures.aspx
I highly doubt you overtorqued it.
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I had the threaded portion of the stub axle fail but it was due to running a worn hub which cyclically applied a shear load on the bolt.
https://www.s2ki.com/...our-hub-is-bad/
According to standardized torque figures, if the bolt is a class 8.8 bolt you would need to torque it beyond 499lbs ft in order to "overtorque" it.
http://www.fullermet...ue_figures.aspx
I highly doubt you overtorqued it.
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I had the threaded portion of the stub axle fail but it was due to running a worn hub which cyclically applied a shear load on the bolt.
https://www.s2ki.com/...our-hub-is-bad/
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I was more worried about too much torque damaging the spindle or wheel bearing. It seemed odd that roughly the same amount of torque rotated the nut farther on one wheel than the other.
I did finally take it out earlier and I think you might be right, iamatlas... The pop/clunk is still there. I'm at around 132k, so it couldn't hurt to start checking bushings anyhow.
Thanks for the replies!
I did finally take it out earlier and I think you might be right, iamatlas... The pop/clunk is still there. I'm at around 132k, so it couldn't hurt to start checking bushings anyhow.
Thanks for the replies!
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Did you follow this DIY?
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/929...e-nut-tsb-diy/
Don't worry about damaging the spindle. You actually would break the fastener before that happened.
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/929...e-nut-tsb-diy/
Don't worry about damaging the spindle. You actually would break the fastener before that happened.
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Did you follow this DIY?
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/929...e-nut-tsb-diy/
Don't worry about damaging the spindle. You actually would break the fastener before that happened.
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/929...e-nut-tsb-diy/
Don't worry about damaging the spindle. You actually would break the fastener before that happened.
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Well crap. Billman, in the 3rd page of that DIY did say that you had an '02 in and the nuts went 90deg past the original spot. I figured the left side nut went farther because it was already stretched. I figure it might be better to leave it be rather than re-torque it again and put more fatigue on the fastener. I could be wrong, though.
I went through the DIY and other threads and saw that the actual torque value seemed to be about 300ish ft-lbs, so I put my weight (about 200lbs) on one foot about 6" from the end of a 24" breaker bar and the photos were the result. Not very precise or scientific, but...
I went through the DIY and other threads and saw that the actual torque value seemed to be about 300ish ft-lbs, so I put my weight (about 200lbs) on one foot about 6" from the end of a 24" breaker bar and the photos were the result. Not very precise or scientific, but...