Pennzoil 5/30 engine oil in my tranny?!
#1
Pennzoil 5/30 engine oil in my tranny?!
So after charging me $59.95 for the tranny oil change, thinking they'll put in Honda MTF, I read my invoice carefully just now and found out they just put in regular engine oil 5/30 weight Pennzoil?!
I read from another thread that engine oil is only to be used for temporary use? Should I be concerned? Should I escalate this to Honda?
Btw, for what it's worth, it is *very* smooth once warmed up, but takes a very long time to warm up compared to the factory fill, and before it does, 1st and 2nd are very hard to engage, even with double clutch downshifting back into them (I drove a VW with notoriously bad gearboxes, I know a thing or 2 about double clutching to get around grinding/notchy boxes).
Les
I read from another thread that engine oil is only to be used for temporary use? Should I be concerned? Should I escalate this to Honda?
Btw, for what it's worth, it is *very* smooth once warmed up, but takes a very long time to warm up compared to the factory fill, and before it does, 1st and 2nd are very hard to engage, even with double clutch downshifting back into them (I drove a VW with notoriously bad gearboxes, I know a thing or 2 about double clutching to get around grinding/notchy boxes).
Les
#2
"Temporary" is just that ............ TEMPORARY.
You shouldn't leave that in there. Honda MTF is what should be in there. It has a few more ingredients to keep the tranny healthy.
As for $60.00 to do this, you paid about 12 bucks for the oil. The rest is for labour, which should have taken about 30 minutes or less to do. I think you've been had.
You shouldn't leave that in there. Honda MTF is what should be in there. It has a few more ingredients to keep the tranny healthy.
As for $60.00 to do this, you paid about 12 bucks for the oil. The rest is for labour, which should have taken about 30 minutes or less to do. I think you've been had.
#3
The Honda S2000 Service manual states, "Always use Honda Manual Transmission Fluid (MTF). Using motor oil can cause stiffer shifting because it does not contain the proper additives."
Your Honda Service Center has this info.
Specifically, motor oil is not friction modified, which may result in your synchros slipping more between shifts, making it more difficult to row through the gears. Others on this site have used various brands of transmission fluid (GM Synchromesh - Friction Modified is popular) but you won't find anyone recommending that you use motor oil.
Your Honda Service Center has this info.
Specifically, motor oil is not friction modified, which may result in your synchros slipping more between shifts, making it more difficult to row through the gears. Others on this site have used various brands of transmission fluid (GM Synchromesh - Friction Modified is popular) but you won't find anyone recommending that you use motor oil.
#5
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Heh, there's a reason I don't use dealerships. My mechanic will let me sit under the lift with him while he does the work. I know what's in my car and how it was put in there, right down to how my wheels were mounted on the rims to how much SC was installed.
And if I need anything I want a s2k expert to mess with, Billman is a couple hours down the road. I'll be visiting him when it warms up outside I decide on the 4.44 or 4.57's.
And if I need anything I want a s2k expert to mess with, Billman is a couple hours down the road. I'll be visiting him when it warms up outside I decide on the 4.44 or 4.57's.
#6
Call Honda of America and tell them what happened. The dealer will be liable for any damage to your transmission. Do it immediately ... and get your transmission fluid changed immediately.
XViper is right, you were had. The dealer should reimburse you for their service and ultimately pay for subsequent charges to get it changed to the correct fluid.
Take it to an Acura dealer and watch them do it. Take a plastic bottle with you and have them take a sample of the fluid. You can get an oil analysis kit from many parts stores. Tell the Acura guys nothing of your experience with the Honda dealership.
This is also why I almost always to service myself.
XViper is right, you were had. The dealer should reimburse you for their service and ultimately pay for subsequent charges to get it changed to the correct fluid.
Take it to an Acura dealer and watch them do it. Take a plastic bottle with you and have them take a sample of the fluid. You can get an oil analysis kit from many parts stores. Tell the Acura guys nothing of your experience with the Honda dealership.
This is also why I almost always to service myself.
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