eric1234

Hi,

I'm brand new here - will actually be picking up my 2007 s2k today, and am quite excited.

Anyway - I don't really want to start out a synthetic vs dino oil thread. I have always accepted that -for a variety of reasons- use of synthetic oil allows extended change intervals.

With that said as a baseline, does the oil minder in my new s2k re-calibrate or somehow compensate for use of synthetic oil as compared with dino oil? Or does it just use the same parameters regardless of the actual oil chemistry in the crankcase?

I have done a search, and didn't seem to find any discussion on this topic.

Thanks in advance for your help/technical expertise.

Eric

TKim103

the oil minder doesn't calibrate anything

it's all based on mileage

deibit

I would not pay attention to the "oil-minder" in my opinion it's too much optimistic (well, asuming that you drive the S the way it's suposed to be driven)

I switch the oil every 7500km (thats about 4660 miles), if you want to keep your warranty, the maximum interval should be 15000km (at least over here).

If the car is new, it has run-in oil on it.. so I would not perform the first oil change before 15.000km (In my case it was at 12.000km, so that should be also ok)

Synth oil is more than ok. At least in Europe you will have a hard time in finding mineral oil engineered for anything more advanced than a tractor (I guess it's different in the states)

Saki GT

The oil minder calculates life with dino oil in mind. If you use synth you might as well ignore the minder. Even with synthetic, you need to follow Honda's schedule for oil changes to stay in warranty though - 12 months or 7,500 miles.

dezignpro04

Please show me proof of this "run-in oil"?! It doesn't exist. It is regular dino oil with Honda logo on the bottle.


Anyhow, the oil minder is based on mileage / driving performance. The harder the car is pushed and the more it stays in the higher rpm's (oil breaks down faster) and the minder will come on sooner.

deibit

Well its not something I need to prove or not, it was just a guess that Honda uses a special kind of run-in oil or standard oil with special additives (molybdenum or whatever..).

Anyway.. as neither of us has the proof whether run-in oil is used or not, then I guess it's still more safe to say that it's better to perform the first oil change at the end of the interval (then we are "safe" in both cases)

dezignpro04

I agree with the being "safe part", but either way you wont damage anything. So all is safe...

JackS

It is kind of inferred in the OM that the initial fill is something other than the the "standard" Honda 10w30. To paraphrase a little" do not be over anxious to change this oil" or something to the same effect. Personally ,I took it literally and changed around seven thousand.

INTJ

Back to the OP. The minder uses an algorithm that seems to use rpm and time and mileage with dino oil intervals. I find that it seems long for dino, but spot on for synthetic. I get max 7k with the minder, so it fits Saki's important comment regarding the warranty (and common sense).

For those who can't read the FAQ and just want to blather, yes you can change oil at 3,000 or 2,000 or 1,000, 0r 500. Just pissing money away unless the UOA PROVES otherwise.