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12-01-2006, 08:58 PM
#101
Originally Posted by RED MX5,Dec 1 2006, 05:29 PM
When you lower a car with struts there are more problems to address than when you lower a car with fully independent suspension, so the difference is important in relation to this discussion.
Struts vs. shocks
Fully indendent vs. live-axle
The terminology refers to totally different concepts
12-02-2006, 12:57 PM
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[QUOTE=Chris S,Dec 2 2006, 12:58 AM]For all you seem to know about struts vs. shocks, I'm surprised that you seem to think that struts are somehow not capable of being fully independent suspension.
Struts vs. shocks
Fully indendent vs. live-axle
Struts vs. shocks
Fully indendent vs. live-axle
12-02-2006, 08:12 PM
#103
Maybe I should have inserted a 
, but I do agree w/ most of what you say, and don't doubt that in general you know what you're talking about. I just found it odd the implication that struts somehow couldn't be fully independent!
As for your assertion that "the term "fully independent" is used only to describe A-arms and the variants, and it refers to the fact that the suspensions settings are fully and independently adjustable." - how is the stock suspension fully & indedendently adjustable? Unless I'm missing something, all you can adjust on stock suspension is alignment.
, but I do agree w/ most of what you say, and don't doubt that in general you know what you're talking about. I just found it odd the implication that struts somehow couldn't be fully independent!As for your assertion that "the term "fully independent" is used only to describe A-arms and the variants, and it refers to the fact that the suspensions settings are fully and independently adjustable." - how is the stock suspension fully & indedendently adjustable? Unless I'm missing something, all you can adjust on stock suspension is alignment.
12-02-2006, 11:13 PM
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[QUOTE=Chris S,Dec 3 2006, 12:12 AM]As for your assertion that "the term "fully independent" is used only to describe A-arms and the variants, and it refers to the fact that the suspensions settings are fully and independently adjustable." - how is the stock suspension fully & indedendently adjustable?
12-03-2006, 05:13 AM
#105
My simple understanding: a suspension design is independent if one wheel hits a bump/pothole and does not impact the other side (as it does w/ a live axle).
As far as the S2000's, I took a diff. approach. I have the Koni/GC combo,and run it at stock height for clearance on all the back roads I like to run. The handling is far superior to stock, and no worries about scraping (well, no more that I had before the change)! The S2000's ground clearance and suspension travel is so limited to begin w/ that I didn't feel that dropping it was a great change for the real world (at least TX Hill Country road conditions).
As far as the S2000's, I took a diff. approach. I have the Koni/GC combo,and run it at stock height for clearance on all the back roads I like to run. The handling is far superior to stock, and no worries about scraping (well, no more that I had before the change)! The S2000's ground clearance and suspension travel is so limited to begin w/ that I didn't feel that dropping it was a great change for the real world (at least TX Hill Country road conditions).
02-23-2007, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris S,Feb 23 2007, 07:44 PM
IMO there's not enough torque to require dampening!
