Nissin vs Adler Brake Parts?
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Nissin vs Adler Brake Parts?
I bought a spare Clutch slave cylinder to have on-hand via eBay, that was advertised Nissin OEM Honda. When it arrived, there is clearly a sticker on the plastic bag that says Adler Brake Parts, with their part number and an "equivalent of" with the Honda OEM part number. The seller is claiming that Honda won't allow them to use the Nissin name or Honda name. Is this bogus or has anyone run into this before?
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Lol. It sounds like he sold you a "same as OEM" part.
Obviously, if Nissin or Honda didn't manufacture it...then they can't use the name. I can't make parts in my garage and then sell them labeled as "Honda" or "Nissin" either.
If you want genuine OEM parts, the best place is a dealer. Bernardiparts, and quite a few other Honda dealer websites will work. Some dealers do have eBay stores as well. They make it very clear that they are a Honda dealer.
Obviously, if Nissin or Honda didn't manufacture it...then they can't use the name. I can't make parts in my garage and then sell them labeled as "Honda" or "Nissin" either.
If you want genuine OEM parts, the best place is a dealer. Bernardiparts, and quite a few other Honda dealer websites will work. Some dealers do have eBay stores as well. They make it very clear that they are a Honda dealer.
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Could be a remanned OEM part. Where the housing/main component is OEM and the seals are Adler. Is Nissin stamped on the unit?
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Honda of course, doesn't make many, if any, of the actual parts. They design them, spec them, then contract other companies to make the parts. Then Honda catalogs all the parts by vin. And of course they assemble the cars and sell them.
Obviously you can buy the part from Honda. If you buy the same part from that contracted manufacturer, its called oem. Se part, different label on the box. Sometimes licensing requires such an oem to remove any Honda branding from the part.
Now, there are a lot of these oem contract quality companies out there. Sometimes one of them that didn't actually get the contract fromnHonda will build an aftermarket version of the part. Often these are just as good as oem quality wise, they just aren't oem since they weren't the ones that Honda actually did contract for the part. This sounds like what might be the case here.
But on a car of this caliber, and on something as difficult and time consuming to replace as a clutch, I would want to spend the extra on parts, to not have to worry about doing the labor all over again any sooner than I have to. How do I know these maybe as good parts will really last as long as real oem?
That said, I realize not everyone has the budget for that, and clutch replacement even for suspect parts still might be years away (depending on miles per uear, etc). We also need brave souls to try out different parts like this so we collectively know whats good, whats junk, and whats decent. So try it and report back how its doing in 30k miles, and every 10k after that. Maybe its years before we have data points, but eventually we'll have them.
Obviously you can buy the part from Honda. If you buy the same part from that contracted manufacturer, its called oem. Se part, different label on the box. Sometimes licensing requires such an oem to remove any Honda branding from the part.
Now, there are a lot of these oem contract quality companies out there. Sometimes one of them that didn't actually get the contract fromnHonda will build an aftermarket version of the part. Often these are just as good as oem quality wise, they just aren't oem since they weren't the ones that Honda actually did contract for the part. This sounds like what might be the case here.
But on a car of this caliber, and on something as difficult and time consuming to replace as a clutch, I would want to spend the extra on parts, to not have to worry about doing the labor all over again any sooner than I have to. How do I know these maybe as good parts will really last as long as real oem?
That said, I realize not everyone has the budget for that, and clutch replacement even for suspect parts still might be years away (depending on miles per uear, etc). We also need brave souls to try out different parts like this so we collectively know whats good, whats junk, and whats decent. So try it and report back how its doing in 30k miles, and every 10k after that. Maybe its years before we have data points, but eventually we'll have them.
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OP is talking about a slave cylinder, not too bad to replace. Although I mostly agree with what you're saying.
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