Xplosiv

all i know is in Japan, the Mugen header is still the most popular one...if those hardcore racers in Japan still have them on their cars, I dont see a point to take it out and swap it with amuse/toda

I track my car and the heatshield comes with the Mugen header helps.

djkojione

interesting.

kekoa - i wonder if this header will give you more of a smooth power band. Ya know, you put a couple of things together and the car overall feels better.

i will try and get a dyno of it up soon.

ultimate lurker

All I know is that Prolene swapped his Mugen for a Toda and picked up significant hp across the range.

I'm selling my Mugen. Anyone want it? $850 - a great deal since it works just like new (doesn't quite look it, but hey...)

Nuff said.

UL

Xplosiv

Stu is right, only the header alone wont give u much gain, you need the i/e/h combo to actually feel "some" difference

I'd get the Mugen ECU before the header

Kekoa

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ultimate lurker
[B]All I know is that Prolene swapped his Mugen for a Toda and picked up significant hp across the range.

I'm selling my Mugen.

Xplosiv

I am suprised a lot of ppl stated that they found significant gain from the i/e/h combo of a NA S2000

the S2000 is well tuned and you will be lucky if you gain a total of 10hp outta your i/e/h/TB combo, I highly doubt if the 10hp gain can be that noticeable.

The only mod that mades a significant difference on my car is the Mugen ECU

ultimate lurker

Yeah, he gained _10 hp_ _over_ the Mugen header. That's about 4% more power to the wheels. That, my friend, is significant. I was surprised as hell, but it didn't stop me from pulling the Mugen off my car.

BTW, we're now seeing cars gain a total of 25 hp or so from I/H/E and Mugen ECU. A little less if you substitute the VAFC for the Mugen ECU.

I picked up 13 hp on my car with a CAI and experimental ECU mod (stock exhaust). The gains are there, you just have to find them.

UL

djkojione

crazy. 25hp. thats gotta be kinda nice.

djkojione

UL - how programmable is the Mugen ECU? or is it just a plug and play type deal?

Kekoa

Mugen Ecu is not programmable. Its made to work with the mugen I/H/E. Oh yeah 92+ octane gas is necessary, which is kind of hard to come by out here and the cooling mods are recommended.